Additional AI needed with Dermacrine?

[highlander31]

So I have been doing some reading on Dermacrine, which I have used in the past, and was wondering if an additional AI like arimistane would be beneficial/needed to use with it?

I ran a cycle without dermacrine, and had no problems. I then ran another cycle with it, and had something flare up, gyno a bit whether it was prolactin or estro related I dont know. Was also using some formeron too btw.

Anyways

 

[Volvo140G]

Weird...

 

[Abe Lincoln]

What were the other compounds ?

 

[Toren]

Dermacrine and Arimistane work great together. I am running both of those with Ostarine right now. FWIW, I find Arimistane to have a slightly negative effect on my joints while the supposedly much more powerful (at eliminating estrogen) Formestane showed no negative effects on joints even when ran at +100mg/day.

P.S. I have always had issues with my joints. However I have never had any issues with gyno/prolactin etc.

 

[highlander31]

What were the other compounds ?

You mean the prohormones I ran with the dermacrine? First was Pmag without Dermacrine. No issues at all. Then it was Msten with dermacrine and had the problem. Obviously 2 different compounds, but both should not aromatize, but obviously we know things happen that arent always "suppose" to.

 

[highlander31]

Dermacrine and Arimistane work great together. I am running both of those with Ostarine right now. FWIW, I find Arimistane to have a slightly negative effect on my joints while the supposedly much more powerful (at eliminating estrogen) Formestane showed no negative effects on joints even when ran at +100mg/day.

P.S. I have always had issues with my joints. However I have never had any issues with gyno/prolactin etc.

I was thinking of using the arimistane instead of the form this time around. Glad to hear youve used that combo before and had luck with it. Yeah its funny how different AIscan have different effects on the joints.

 

[clown007]

I'm in my second week of the exact same stack- 20mg Ostar1ne, 4 pumps Dermacrine, and 50 mg Elim1nate. Planning on running for 8 weeks. I may move up to 25 mg of Ostar1ne in two weeks. I haven't felt any negative effects whatsoever (though I know I've just started) and feel like I have more energy and drive overall.

-clown

 

[highlander31]

I'm in my second week of the exact same stack- 20mg Ostar1ne, 4 pumps Dermacrine, and 50 mg Elim1nate. Planning on running for 8 weeks. I may move up to 25 mg of Ostar1ne in two weeks. I haven't felt any negative effects whatsoever (though I know I've just started) and feel like I have more energy and drive overall.

-clown

Ill keep a note of this and shoot you a PM in like 2 weeks to see how the Dermacrine and Eliminate are treating you.

 

[Volvo140G]

I'd blame the msten, not the derm

 

[motiv8er]

Did you run a serm? For as much as I've cycled in the last 12 years, when I feel like an itch is starting behind a nip, I sometimes run Nolvadex at 40, 20, 20mgs a day....until the pain in nip is gone. I've gotten gyno out of nowhere. I hadn't been on anything in 4 or 5 months, but my bodies homeostasis was off....took a while to figure what was up.....man boobs suck.

 

[clown007]

For me, I plan to run clomid afterwards and have exemestane on hand just in case. Lots of ppl advised this so I thought it most prudent. Better safe than sorry.

-clown

 

[highlander31]

Did you run a serm? For as much as I've cycled in the last 12 years, when I feel like an itch is starting behind a nip, I sometimes run Nolvadex at 40, 20, 20mgs a day....until the pain in nip is gone. I've gotten gyno out of nowhere. I hadn't been on anything in 4 or 5 months, but my bodies homeostasis was off....took a while to figure what was up.....man boobs suck.

I did actually start Nolva when it started flaring. It was at 20mg tho, but nothing changed within 3-4 days so I said screw it and went into PCT (was at day 28 or something around there anyways).

Thats weird about getting gyno 4-5 months later...

 

[highlander31]

For me, I plan to run clomid afterwards and have exemestane on hand just in case. Lots of ppl advised this so I thought it most prudent. Better safe than sorry.

-clown

yeah you should for sure, and absolutely better safe than sorry.

 

[Volvo140G]

Did you run a serm? For as much as I've cycled in the last 12 years, when I feel like an itch is starting behind a nip, I sometimes run Nolvadex at 40, 20, 20mgs a day....until the pain in nip is gone. I've gotten gyno out of nowhere. I hadn't been on anything in 4 or 5 months, but my bodies homeostasis was off....took a while to figure what was up.....man boobs suck.

Do you have regular bloods drawn? Do you have moobs?

 

[motiv8er]

Do you have regular bloods drawn? Do you have moobs?

I have has blood drawn, but not during that time period unfortunately. The research I did, as one would do a lot growing titties, showed me that after a cycle, HPTA may not hit the same hormone levels Estrogen, Progesterone, test.....as it had before and some long after the cycle PCT may be needed to clean up. I now have a kit in my house for a lot of different problems, Cialis, because God knows having to hold your girl all night swearing that everything is OK, because youre running too much deca and have deca dick stuff. Yeah, never again. A couple bottle of nolva, cause gyno can pop-up almost anytime. Ive learned if I control estrogen in my body- breast area, I tend to have less progesterone issues. I have problems running tren enth, tren ace....almost no problems. I had what felt like a man breast rebound after running Epistane of all compounds....I ran a really long, low dosed PCT and that seemed to keep the sides more or less at bay until things kind of "normalized?" Hope that helps some lol!