SDMZ 2.0 LOG

[BillyBatson]

Started my [planned] 4-week SDMZ 2.0 cycle last Thursday - as follows:
- SDMZ 2.0 - 2 caps/day (morning/evening) = 20mg DMZ / 20mg Msten per day
- Cycle Support - 4 caps/day (as indicated)
- Milk Thistle (250 mg 3x/day)


My Stats:
Age: 45
Weight: 215
Height: 5'9
BF: 15-20% (estimated)

Bench: 315
D-Lift: 315
Leg Press: 765


Daily Caloric Intake: - 3000-3500
- Protein: 275-315g (avg)
- Carbs: 300g (avg)
- Fat: 90g (avg)





LOG:
Five days into cycle, not feeling too much difference as of yet . . . though not entirely certain what I should be "looking out" for either. I've always worked out hard/intense at gym, so I'm anxiously waiting to see/feel any difference. Patience.

 

[LeanEngineer]

I'm in to see how your results go!

 

[napalm]

4nd!

 

[1test]

I'll be watching you

 

[Toren]

Subbed...again.

 

[Jokers]

Shotgun

 

[Gstyle24]

Will be doing this in a few weeks so looking forward to your results. Hope it works!

 

[Mumbles01]

Subbed.

What's your PCT look like?

 

[BillyBatson]

Will be doing this in a few weeks so looking forward to your results. Hope it works!

Me Too !!!

 

[Mumbles01]

Bump for pct line up...

 

[Jebrook]

Subbed!

 

[BillyBatson]

Bump for pct line up...

Planning on using Sup3r PCT, DAA and an AI

 

[Mumbles01]

No SERM?

 

[BillyBatson]

No SERM?

Finding it very difficult to find/obtain such - absent a prescription - here in the U.S.

 

[LiftBigC]

I have never had an issue obtaining a serm without prescription. Google is your friend.
Is SDMZ 2.0 recommended to be taken for 4 weeks? I am looking to start a new PH and I'm considering this. Is it popular to take for 6 weeks?

 

[Canes325]

Finding it very difficult to find/obtain such - absent a prescription - here in the U.S.

Site sponsors. Your going to really want/need a serm for this.

 

[Canes325]

On a completely unrelated topic I just noticed ironmag research is now a board sponsor. Very cool!

 

[Mumbles01]

I have never had an issue obtaining a serm without prescription. Google is your friend.
Is SDMZ 2.0 recommended to be taken for 4 weeks? I am looking to start a new PH and I'm considering this. Is it popular to take for 6 weeks?

4 weeks along side a test base is recommended. Remember. It's 2 very potent phs'

@ OP finding a SERM is easier then you think. No prescription needed
& IMO if you didn't find one before you started your cycle then you didn't do enough research.
Get one ASAP

 

[BillyBatson]

. . . IMO if you didn't find one before you started your cycle then you didn't do enough research.
Get one ASAP

I tried to research ... but perhaps you're right about "not enough" - as I wasn't able to [initially] find a viable option.
Looking at IronMag Research at this point.

It's my understanding that the most general recommendation is Nolvadex (i.e. tamoxifen), yes?

 

[Canes325]

I tried to research ... but perhaps you're right about "not enough" - as I wasn't able to [initially] find a viable option.
Looking at IronMag Research at this point.

It's my understanding that the most general recommendation is Nolvadex (i.e. tamoxifen), yes?

A lot of people like clomid. Clomid dosed at 50/50/25/25 or nolva 20/20/10/10

 

[Mumbles01]

Exactly this^

 

[BillyBatson]

Exactly this^

So which one is preferred .... and why?

 

[Canes325]

So which one is preferred .... and why?

My understanding is this- Clomid for restarting HPTA nolva for preventing gyno from aromatising cycles. Clomid has a few more reported sides than nolva though soo..

 

[BillyBatson]

DAY 6 LOG ENTRY:
Yesterday at the gym was the first time I felt a jolt of increased strength. In this particular case, on incline bench press ...
300 lbs x 4 (reps). Prior to this point, my max (reps) on incline has been 255. It was strange to feel such a strength jolt - but I liked it.

(especially while Dennis Wolf was lifting directly next to me - which might have been a bit of an inspiration/motivation jolt as well) :wink1:

 

[Jebrook]

DAY 6 LOG ENTRY:
Yesterday at the gym was the first time I felt a jolt of increased strength. In this particular case, on incline bench press ...
300 lbs x 4 (reps). Prior to this point, my max (reps) on incline has been 255. It was strange to feel such a strength jolt - but I liked it.

(especially while Dennis Wolf was lifting directly next to me - which might have been a bit of an inspiration/motivation jolt as well) :wink1:

300 on an incline. That's strong! 40 lb. weight increase? That's amazing. Careful not to jump too fast and tear something. Pec tears can happen easily when making big weight jumps. Great work though.

 

[Canes325]

Good point^ what those tendons and ligaments OP

 

[BillyBatson]

Thank You, but no worries . . . The one thing I am always conscious of is attempting weights I know I cannot handle.


I got over the "I need to impress anyone other than myself" ego a long time ago.

 

[BillyBatson]

Okay, so for PCT, how does this look? . . .

Nolva
Sup3r PCT
DAA

What would you recommend for an aromatase inhibitor?

 

[Jebrook]

Looks perfect. AI on hand only if needed. Go with Exemestane.

 

[Mumbles01]

Okay, so for PCT, how does this look? . . .

Nolva
Sup3r PCT
DAA

What would you recommend for an aromatase inhibitor?

I would also add
2 bottles of TD str3ngth
& ep1c unleashed both by Olympus labs.
Helps maintain while your body is re adjusting post cycle.

 

[Gstyle24]

DAY 6 LOG ENTRY:
Yesterday at the gym was the first time I felt a jolt of increased strength. In this particular case, on incline bench press ...
300 lbs x 4 (reps). Prior to this point, my max (reps) on incline has been 255. It was strange to feel such a strength jolt - but I liked it.

(especially while Dennis Wolf was lifting directly next to me - which might have been a bit of an inspiration/motivation jolt as well) :wink1:

Wtf? After only 6 days? I'm not sure if I should be excited or scared. I would expect that to be best case scenario after the whole cycle...

Gonna be interesting to see how much farther you can go up from there..

 

[BillyBatson]

Wtf? After only 6 days? I'm not sure if I should be excited or scared. I would expect that to be best case scenario after the whole cycle... Gonna be interesting to see how much farther you can go up from there..

I'm not going to say that the bump in weight I lifted is all due to the SDMZ ... it's just that I had a fantastic workout and I did feel an uptick in strength. I always work out pretty intensely and my diet is pretty strict, so perhaps it's a combo of elements.

I'd LIKE to think the SDMZ is kicking in - because it makes me excited for what I might see over the next/remaining 3 weeks.

 

[BillyBatson]

Nolva (SERM) ordered - will be on hand in plenty of time for PCT :thumbsup:

 

[BillyBatson]

I would also add
2 bottles of TD str3ngth
& ep1c unleashed both by Olympus labs.
Helps maintain while your body is re adjusting post cycle.

Isn't that what Nolva is for ??

 

[Gstyle24]

Are you using any pre workout?

Any side effects so far?

 

[BillyBatson]

Are you using any pre workout?

Any side effects so far?

Only pre-workout I use is creatine monohydrate w/ beta alanine.

No noticeable [negative] side-effects, to date.

 

[Mumbles01]

You really should do some emergency PCT research while your on cycle.
Driven2lift can you toss some knowledge his way.

 

[BillyBatson]

You really should do some emergency PCT research while your on cycle.
Driven2lift can you toss some knowledge his way.

Why do you say "emergency?"

 

[Canes325]

The products mumbles recommended are natural anabolics. When taken in pct they help retain gains. Are they beneficial? Yes absolutely. Are they a necessity? No not at all.

 

[BillyBatson]

DAY 10 LOG ENTRY:
Not feeling any negative side effects to speak of - at least nothing noticeable.
Taking my CycleAssist religiously - as well as extra milk thistle.

I am noticing my muscles starting to look a little fuller - as well as continued increased strength and endurance at the gym. Today was shoulders/traps - and I definitely experienced a great pump and after-workout soreness (in a good way). Felt so good at the end of my "planned" workout, that I decided to throw in an extra abs workout at the tail end.

Overall, I'd say I'm having a positive experience with this cycle so far.

 

[motiv8er]

I prefer Nolva because Clomid can turn me into a bit of a B*TCH.

 

[BillyBatson]

I prefer Nolva because Clomid can turn me into a bit of a B*TCH.

Funny, I've read more comments that said, more or less, the same thing re: clomid vs. nolva.

Which is why I ordered my Nolva (tamoxifen citrate) last week and expect it any day now.

 

[808shredded]

Your pick is okay.

 

[BillyBatson]

Nolva (SERM) ordered - will be on hand in plenty of time for PCT :thumbsup:

Just want to give a shout-out to IronMag Research . . . ordered on Friday, received on Tuesday.

:You_Rock_Emoticon:

 

[LiftBigC]

Subbed. I want to add size and numbers to my lifts. This looks like it's working well for you for just that. Keep hammering!

 

[jason267]

how is the lethargy treating you?

 

[808shredded]

Subbed. I want to add size and numbers to my lifts. This looks like it's working well for you for just that. Keep hammering!

To very strong compounds in one bottle.

 

[jason267]

Im planning a super dmz 2.0 run in a few months, wish the dmz was at 30mgs, instead of the 20mgs....but its the only dmz option out there anymore...so ill take it and love it! The msten at 20mgs is spot on though

 

[808shredded]

Im planning a super dmz 2.0 run in a few months, wish the dmz was at 30mgs, instead of the 20mgs....but its the only dmz option out there anymore...so ill take it and love it! The msten at 20mgs is spot on though

I never came across a negative feedback about this product. It speaks for itself.

 

[BillyBatson]

how is the lethargy treating you?

I am not noticing any lethargy - to date