bp support on cycle

[SweetLou321]

Was researching some im trest ace. Bp shot up to 150/90 immediately. This was while using hawthorn berries and I was already using them for a few weeks. Added 400mg coq10 also with no help. Anyone got any suggestions? Outside of dbol this is the only thing to jack it up like this. Removing it is what I'm planning to do ATM unless something actually helps.

 

[DigitalB]

Cialis will help..
I've never checked my BP on it, but maybe ED low dosing will help..
It's a thought.

 

[SweetLou321]

Cialis will help..
I've never checked my BP on it, but maybe ED low dosing will help..
It's a thought.

I have some. What dose would you consider low?

 

[DigitalB]

If it's RC, I would probably use like 15mg ED.. I haven't had great luck with RC Cialis so id dose higher..

True Cialis I'd use 10mg ED..

This is where I'd maybe start and monitor BP to see if you need to go higher or lower.. Like I said, I've never checked BP while on it.. But I did take 35mg of RC Cialis from HP and it sent me to the ER lol I wasn't on cycle at the time, in pct..

Edit: ER visit was from the drop in BP.. Not a long lasting erection..

 

[SweetLou321]

If it's RC, I would probably use like 15mg ED.. I haven't had great luck with RC Cialis so id dose higher..

True Cialis I'd use 10mg ED..

This is where I'd maybe start and monitor BP to see if you need to go higher or lower.. Like I said, I've never checked BP while on it.. But I did take 35mg of RC Cialis from HP and it sent me to the ER lol I wasn't on cycle at the time, in pct..

Sent you to the er as in? Lol

I have ugl ATM. Gets decent reviews from people I know personally. I'll start around 10mg and see. Trest is a crazy compound but lifting for strength with high bp has me going numb and blacking out mid lift.

 

[DigitalB]

10mg is a good starting point...
Go from there and adjust..

You drinking caffeine?

Could try adding baby aspirin to..

 

[SweetLou321]

10mg is a good starting point...
Go from there and adjust..

You drinking caffeine?

Could try adding baby aspirin to..

I do drink a little caffeine. Less then 100mg most times.

I have that too. Another good idea thanks.

 

[Misfit28]

How much Hawthorn berry were you using, out of curiosity? I would assume your source is legit?

 

[SweetLou321]

How much Hawthorn berry were you using, out of curiosity? I would assume your source is legit?

Source for?

It was natures way heart choice or heart care. I'll get the exact label and extract strength as soon as I can.

 

[Kickstart7]

What's you age? Could cialis mess with a young guys junk out of curiousity?

 

[Misfit28]

Nitrates may be a better choice than Cialis.

 

[DigitalB]

What's you age? Could cialis mess with a young guys junk out of curiousity?

I have never had any issues from it.. I've been using it off and on for some years now.. I'm 31 now.. I only use it when needed however..

 

[Kickstart7]

I have never had any issues from it.. I've been using it off and on for some years now.. I'm 31 now.. I only use it when needed however..

Gotcha brother

 

[SweetLou321]

Nitrates may be a better choice than Cialis.

I could see this.

The hawthorn is 80mg per tab, 18.75% extract.

Any particular nitrate product you recommend?

 

[SweetLou321]

What's you age? Could cialis mess with a young guys junk out of curiousity?

24, I have no idea. I've never needed it so I never used it. Got some for emergencies.

 

[Kickstart7]

24, I have no idea. I've never needed it so I never used it. Got some for emergencies.

I might do the same.

 

[SweetLou321]

I might do the same.

Worth a shot. I might start it tonight. But I've read it interacts negatively with nitrates?

 

[yates84]

Worth a shot. I might start it tonight. But I've read it interacts negatively with nitrates?

Nitrates with a pde5 inhibitor can drop your blood pressure too low, I suggest you assess your tolerance with small doses with each to see how you respond

 

[hewhoisripped]

I recommend:
KNO3
Cialis
Antaeus Ultra CoQ10 -> the increased bio-availability of the nano-formulation may make the difference vs. 'regular' CoQ10

If those bad boys don't keep your BP in check... Time to evaluate doses.

 

[SweetLou321]

I recommend:
KNO3
Cialis
Antaeus Ultra CoQ10 -> the increased bio-availability of the nano-formulation may make the difference vs. 'regular' CoQ10

If those bad boys don't keep your BP in check... Time to evaluate doses.

Any particular dose recommendations for each?

 

[SweetLou321]

Nitrates with a pde5 inhibitor can drop your blood pressure too low, I suggest you assess your tolerance with small doses with each to see how you respond

OK cool, I just don't want to end up having a problem BC I took both on a day or something.

 

[yates84]

OK cool, I just don't want to end up having a problem BC I took both on a day or something.

They work synergistically with each other, dose together but be cautous. I'm not sure of a good dosing scheme, don't really remember what I used to run. I just use rx bp meds on cycle now and don't have to worry about it

 

[SweetLou321]

They work synergistically with each other, dose together but be cautous. I'm not sure of a good dosing scheme, don't really remember what I used to run. I just use rx bp meds on cycle now and don't have to worry about it

Ok cool thanks. I'll start low and work my way up slowly.

 

[drogan]

You could give blood.

 

[SweetLou321]

You could give blood.

Did that, checked bp 2 days later and it was the same.

 

[Db2]

I get headaches and heartburn on cialis at 10mg. 6mg seems to be the sweet spot for me. Had two different RC's with definitely different strengths. I start at .2ml on the dropper if its 25 or 30mg's per ml and inch up .1ml at a time until sides, then back off. The nice thing is how it stays in your system, so if I'm not noticing much I can redose later in the day. At 5mg's got my mans standing at attention when the wind blows her skirt. Nice bonus lol.

 

[SweetLou321]

I get headaches and heartburn on cialis at 10mg. 6mg seems to be the sweet spot for me. Had two different RC's with definitely different strengths. I start at .2ml on the dropper if its 25 or 30mg's per ml and inch up .1ml at a time until sides, then back off. The nice thing is how it stays in your system, so if I'm not noticing much I can redose later in the day. At 5mg's got my mans standing at attention when the wind blows her skirt. Nice bonus lol.

Lol thanks man. Its ugl tabs so I'll cut into 1/4th size pieces and start there and see where it gets me. Any time of day better to dose it?

 

[Db2]

I like to dose it in the morning, it's slightly better absorbed on an empty stomach but it really doesn't matter. Basic info on cialis usually says 'take 1-4 hours before activity' assuming one was taking it for sexual purposes, so I assume it takes some time to take effect. For myself I've noticed it's 'effects' within about 1-2 hours. I work out fasted first thing in the morning so I generally try and take it the last time I get up to piss during the night (I'm drinking lots of water right now), or very first thing rolling out of bed. But in general no I don't think it matters when you take it. Effects from a single dose seem to last about 2 days so I'd probably be just as well taking it at night, but I'm currently low dosing every day and doing some cycling here and there for my own reasons.

 

[Blergs]

Was researching some im trest ace. Bp shot up to 150/90 immediately. This was while using hawthorn berries and I was already using them for a few weeks. Added 400mg coq10 also with no help. Anyone got any suggestions? Outside of dbol this is the only thing to jack it up like this. Removing it is what I'm planning to do ATM unless something actually helps.

I use CIA (Cialis) from CEM, you could try 5mg eod and see if it helps. I have also heard of 10mg eod.

 

[SweetLou321]

I use CIA (Cialis) from CEM, you could try 5mg eod and see if it helps. I have also heard of 10mg eod.

Thanks. Ill try that. It seems cialis is the most recommended method. And I have 100 20mg tabs so I'll start there. Thanks everyone.

 

[hewhoisripped]

Any particular dose recommendations for each?

For KNO3 I'd go with something like 300mg 3xday, along with some vitamin C with each dose
Cialis at 10mg ED has no bad sides for me so I stick to that
Ultra CoQ10 2-4 caps a day is good

 

[SweetLou321]

OK so I tried the cialis started at 5mg EOD and went to 10mg EOD. Was a walking hard on with test and trest. Tested bp in the morning with no stims. Came back 150/90 with a hr of 95. So this did nothing it seems. I gonna have to can this cycle it seems. I have a meet in 3 weeks and the bp and hr sides has me passing out and going numb mid lift.

On a side note I tested it post caffeine and training at it came back at 130/85 hr of 85. Which surprised me. Same set up and machine.

 

[yates84]

OK so I tried the cialis started at 5mg EOD and went to 10mg EOD. Was a walking hard on with test and trest. Tested bp in the morning with no stims. Came back 150/90 with a hr of 95. So this did nothing it seems. I gonna have to can this cycle it seems. I have a meet in 3 weeks and the bp and hr sides has me passing out and going numb mid lift.

On a side note I tested it post caffeine and training at it came back at 130/85 hr of 85. Which surprised me. Same set up and machine.

Did you try using potassium nitrate with the cialis? They are synergistic and will lower your bp. Just don't go overboard right away since you could drop your bp too low with the two

 

[SweetLou321]

Did you try using potassium nitrate with the cialis? They are synergistic and will lower your bp. Just don't go overboard right away since you could drop your bp too low with the two

I was avoid nitrates BC of them working together. I will start to add some slowly and see what happens. Thanks!

 

[heavylifter33]

I've had BP issues when i start to stack things, doing 8 caps of CEL Cycle Assist + nitrate seemed to provide the best help for me. I've never used pde5 inhibitors.

 

[SweetLou321]

I've had BP issues when i start to stack things, doing 8 caps of CEL Cycle Assist + nitrate seemed to provide the best help for me. I've never used pde5 inhibitors.

Potassium nitrate? If so what dosage? I'd get cycle assist but I just have 3 weeks left. May still get it tho.

 

[bigead]

Up the dose of cialis to 25? Split doses?

 

[SweetLou321]

Up the dose of cialis to 25? Split doses?

I've moved to 5mg ed now and upped the hawthorn to 1500mg ed. I'll increase cialis as needed.

 

[bigead]

I found on tren cialis work about every 4 hours for me at about 8 milligrams are so three times a day

 

[SweetLou321]

I found on tren cialis work about every 4 hours for me at about 8 milligrams are so three times a day

Did you test your bp?

 

[bigead]

Did you test your bp?

Yes I bought a pretty expensive one off amazon. How accurate it is, who knows. I always seem to test lower at the doctors office.

 

[Nitro41]

My doctor knows Im on, and said to cal him if Im having BP issues.

Anyone use pharma grase blood pressure medicine on cycle? Ive heard a ton about most guys using cialis bexause its easy to get.

Im consistently in the 135/90 to 160/90 area on orboff cycle

 

[yates84]

My doctor knows Im on, and said to cal him if Im having BP issues.

Anyone use pharma grase blood pressure medicine on cycle? Ive heard a ton about most guys using cialis bexause its easy to get.

Im consistently in the 135/90 to 160/90 area on orboff cycle

I use lisinopril or amlodipine on cycle with good sucess. I just went to see my doctor and just keep my script going

 

[uprightrows]

^ this if you can get 5mg of lisinopril ED. And even better if you can combine it with a selective beta blocker like metoprolol you will solve most of your BP issues

 

[mr.cooper69]

Did you try using potassium nitrate with the cialis? They are synergistic and will lower your bp. Just don't go overboard right away since you could drop your bp too low with the two

I can't believe you're endorsing combining the two! There is no responsible way to combine them, hence why this is an ABSOLUTE contraindication in medicine. You need to read up on the mechanics of the synergy anyway, they don't synergize at rest for lowering BP. Rather, nitrates induce reflex tachycardia and peripheral vasoconstriction during orthostatic maneuvers...this is a compensatory mechanism that ensures blood reaches the brain. When you use cialis, even at tiny doses, you break the feedback loop and can easily syncopize.

Never, ever combine the two drugs, and never, ever actually endorse this! You could seriouly hurt someone