PN Dermahex/ BPS Dermacrine

[Joshlm69]

Hey guys,

Probably going to try this out in a week

6 weeks :

1/2 ml morning & 1/2 ml early evening dermahex application post shower

3 pumps dermacrine post morning shower application. Don't know if I'll need to go above 3?

Do I need to take anything else ON cycle? It's non methy so not sure I need liver care etc?

PCT : iron forged most wanted, ironchampUSA HPTA + Volume, Magnitropin & Nolva 20/20/10/10

Am I missing anything?

Cheers guys

 

[Joshlm69]

PCT can also include Sustain Alpha if needed

 

[yates84]

Bp control might be a good idea, hawthorne berry is good for bp. I take 4 565mg caps split in 2 doses ed while on cycle and in pct. 100 caps will set you back about 5$

 

[Misfit28]

I've been curious about Dermahex myself. Are you logging your results?

 

[Joshlm69]

I've been curious about Dermahex myself. Are you logging your results?

Yeah I'll log right here bud

 

[Misfit28]

Yeah I'll log right here bud

Awesome! I need to do some more research on hexadrone. Don't know much about it.

 

[Joshlm69]

Really mild, also low androgenic sides and I don't think shutdown is brutal, basically why I'm doing it, haha

 

[Joshlm69]

Is hawthorn all I need on cycle ? If so I'll just pick up some essential cycle by evolved supplements

 

[yates84]

Is hawthorn all I need on cycle ? If so I'll just pick up some essential cycle by evolved supplements

It never hurts to have more protection than you really need. What's in essential cycle?

 

[Joshlm69]

Red yeast rice
Saw plametto
Milk thistle
Hawthorn
NAC
Celery extract

Does that cover everything ?

 

[Godstrength]

Hey guys, Probably going to try this out in a week 6 weeks : 1/2 ml morning & 1/2 ml early evening dermahex application post shower 3 pumps dermacrine post morning shower application. Don't know if I'll need to go above 3? Do I need to take anything else ON cycle? It's non methy so not sure I need liver care etc? PCT : iron forged most wanted, ironchampUSA HPTA + Volume, Magnitropin & Nolva 20/20/10/10 Am I missing anything? Cheers guys

What's the dosing look like? How many mg?

 

[Joshlm69]

It's transdermal so 1/2 ml (4 pumps) AM and 1/2 ml PM

Dermacrine 3 pumps AM

 

[Godstrength]

It's transdermal so 1/2 ml (4 pumps) AM and 1/2 ml PM Dermacrine 3 pumps AM

Lol how many mg of hexadrone/day is that

 

[Joshlm69]

 

[Joshlm69]

100mg/ML

 

[yates84]

Red yeast rice
Saw plametto
Milk thistle
Hawthorn
NAC
Celery extract

Does that cover everything ?

That will be fine for what you are running

 

[Joshlm69]

So it would be 100 mg a day of hex

 

[grinnell27]

80-100 is a sweet spot for most, I have hear of 200 before though.

100 will be fine with that on cycle support and PCT.

 

[Joshlm69]

80-100 is a sweet spot for most, I have hear of 200 before though.

100 will be fine with that on cycle support and PCT.

Do you think it's worth adding sustain alpha to my pct or best to not go near my e2 levels?

 

[grinnell27]

It won't hurt having it in. Will help you keep strength and size a little bit.

It just help to raise your natural T levels... Obviously the quicker the better, that way you can maintain size and strength as much as possible.

 

[Godstrength]

Everything looks good to me.... So no more backing out, finally going to get your feet wet?

Honestly bro this will be a good first cycle for you. And you can play with the dosing some since you have 60 ml. I have also heard it can be run up to 200mg.

 

[Joshlm69]

Yeah I just wanted to try a mild compound with low androgenic sides for my first one.

Definitely want to get hold of clomid for pct. Is it best stacking Nolva and clomid or just going with clomid.

If anyone knows any legit sources for clomid from UK/EU please PM me

 

[Joshlm69]

Everything looks good to me.... So no more backing out, finally going to get your feet wet?

Honestly bro this will be a good first cycle for you. And you can play with the dosing some since you have 60 ml. I have also heard it can be run up to 200mg.

I think 100 for 6 weeks is good for me, just wanting to test the water

 

[grinnell27]

Nolva & Clomid are great together... My personal favourite.

If you dose Clomid height though it can make you emotional haha.

We can't say sources.

 

[Godstrength]

Yeah I just wanted to try a mild compound with low androgenic sides for my first one. Definitely want to get hold of clomid for pct. Is it best stacking Nolva and clomid or just going with clomid. If anyone knows any legit sources for clomid from UK/EU please PM me

Honestly I would just run one serm. Like aas everyone reacts differently and if you run one solo you will get an idea of how you react. You could compare the other later and figure out which works best for you. Considering your layout one serm is plenty.

Also, just from my own experience and opinion-
Run the serm, no need for an ai in pct. This is why- when taking a serm it does 2 things very well. 1 it will restart your hpta and test production while 2. Blocking your estrogen receptors protecting you from any rebound gyno. In the mean time your test and estrogen levels will balance themselves out. The whole point is to get your body back into a state of homeostasis. The ai will continue to throw your bodies ability to bring itself into homeostasis into more confusion. In my experience after 30 days on a serm test levels rise and estrogen balances itself out... Just my 2c and I'm sure some will disagree

 

[Joshlm69]

Honestly I would just run one serm. Like aas everyone reacts differently and if you run one solo you will get an idea of how you react. You could compare the other later and figure out which works best for you. Considering your layout one serm is plenty.

Also, just from my own experience and opinion-
Run the serm, no need for an ai in pct. This is why- when taking a serm it does 2 things very well. 1 it will restart your hpta and test production while 2. Blocking your estrogen receptors protecting you from any rebound gyno. In the mean time your test and estrogen levels will balance themselves out. The whole point is to get your body back into a state of homeostasis. The ai will continue to throw your bodies ability to bring itself into homeostasis into more confusion. In my experience after 30 days on a serm test levels rise and estrogen balances itself out... Just my 2c and I'm sure some will disagree

Thanks. I may still try get some clomid as I heard it's the preferred SERM

 

[yates84]

Honestly I would just run one serm. Like aas everyone reacts differently and if you run one solo you will get an idea of how you react. You could compare the other later and figure out which works best for you. Considering your layout one serm is plenty.

Also, just from my own experience and opinion-
Run the serm, no need for an ai in pct. This is why- when taking a serm it does 2 things very well. 1 it will restart your hpta and test production while 2. Blocking your estrogen receptors protecting you from any rebound gyno. In the mean time your test and estrogen levels will balance themselves out. The whole point is to get your body back into a state of homeostasis. The ai will continue to throw your bodies ability to bring itself into homeostasis into more confusion. In my experience after 30 days on a serm test levels rise and estrogen balances itself out... Just my 2c and I'm sure some will disagree

There is no right answer for ai use, I personally believe in only using one when you have estrogen sides. I would just use 1 serm also, clomid at 50/50/25/25 has always worked good for me

 

[grinnell27]

Guess it's all each to their own. I personally found that I 'felt' like I rebounded quicker using 2 SERMS.

It's always good to see other people's opinions and reasons though.

 

[Joshlm69]

Going to replace Nolva with clomid at 50/50/25/25

 

[Joshlm69]

Do you guys think bumping it to 200 would be good, weeks 4-6?

 

[yates84]

Do you guys think bumping it to 200 would be good, weeks 4-6?

If you are still making gains off 100mg in week 4 I would say leave it there. If your gains slow down or stop you can bump it up. Just see how you feel when the time comes

 

[grinnell27]

Agree with Yates, if progress stalls or slows down then up the dose, work your way up to 200 if needed.

Not much point jumping in on 200 if 100 makes you gain like a beast

You logging this? I will follow along if so.

 

[BigBlackGuy]

Do you think it's worth adding sustain alpha to my pct or best to not go near my e2 levels?

It won't crush them as long as you don't overdo the dose.

I think I had talked to you before about this, but starting at 2 pumps is a good idea.

 

[Joshlm69]

Agree with Yates, if progress stalls or slows down then up the dose, work your way up to 200 if needed.

Not much point jumping in on 200 if 100 makes you gain like a beast

You logging this? I will follow along if so.

Will log ofc bro

 

[Joshlm69]

Arrived today - Will grab after work.

Will taking this in the evening affect my sleep do you think? Dermahex that is? Sleep pretty terribly already.

Going to probably be taking 1 cap of Onnit New Mood with camomile tea 1 hour before bed

 

[Joshlm69]

Arrived :

 

[Joshlm69]

Danes get in here

 

[grinnell27]

In for the ride... Kind of weird following a log with the company I used to rep for lol

 

[Joshlm69]

Just fingers crossed it isn't bunk with all this PN talk going on

 

[Godstrength]

Just fingers crossed it isn't bunk with all this PN talk going on

Only one way to find out ;-)

 

[Joshlm69]

jason267 critique this cycle + pct plEase

 

[Danes]

Hey guys,

Probably going to try this out in a week

6 weeks :

1/2 ml morning & 1/2 ml early evening dermahex application post shower

3 pumps dermacrine post morning shower application. Don't know if I'll need to go above 3?

Do I need to take anything else ON cycle? It's non methy so not sure I need liver care etc?

PCT : iron forged most wanted, ironchampUSA HPTA + Volume, Magnitropin & Nolva 20/20/10/10

Am I missing anything?

Cheers guys

There ia allways many things that can be added but honestly you actually dont need.
It would be best to run few (or just one) things to see how it works for you.

But it seems good. PCT and everything

 

[Joshlm69]

Starting on Monday as I have to drink on Saturday evening and I don't wana get ill

 

[grinnell27]

Good idea bro, start fresh and ready

 

[Joshlm69]

Am I right in thinking drinking on cycle will make you ill?

 

[yates84]

Am I right in thinking drinking on cycle will make you ill?

Probably not bit it still isn't a good idea. Never drink on cycle

 

[grinnell27]

Yeah just to clarify I didn't mean you would get ill... I thought you meant I'll as in hangover haha

 

[Joshlm69]

Probably wise to wait until the Monday right? I know being on cycle lowers immune system, which means being out in the cold and drinking makes it more likely to get a cold, will just wait

 

[Joshlm69]

I only have a little of essential cycle left. should i just upgrade and get 2 CEL cycle assist?

 

[Joshlm69]

Nevermind, ordered them