Just Got My Bloods Back....YIKES. Thoughts/Help

[DubStrength]

Got my results back from my blood work. I've ran two PH cycles before, giving 2 months between each cycle to run the next one. I took cycle armor and took lecheek nutrition AD-3 PCT after both cycles. Never used a SERM or anything. Months after I realized I had some sort of small amount of gyno. Used the old Formastanzol with formastane in it last month. Felt like it reduced it some what. Now having itchy nipples and a tender feeling again I finally got bloods. This is what I got back.

Doc wouldn't give me anything when I complained about the issue months ago. Now hes finally prescribed me a months supply of Tamoxifen at 10mg. Mind you I'm only 21 years old and have these levels and my Prolactin levels are very high. So I'm kind of scared ****tless. I was afraid to use PH's for the fear of not having children one day and the people who got me to take them assured me I was insane, and even research I did told me I was. Now my doctor is further scaring me about that now. At this point I just want my levels back to what someone my age should have and be able to have kids (hopefully I haven't done damage I can no longer reverse.) And possibly stopping the gyno from getting any worse or reversing it. Thoughts on my dosing anyone? I've seen 20/20/10/10 but with this amount I won't be able to pull that off. My doctor tells me not to, but should I take a natural test booster with this as well? Or taking Lecheek Nutrition T-X3 which has 50mg of arimistane in it too.

Any help would be great!

 

[Joshlm69]

You need to supp something to lower your prolactin, think black lion research have a product called prolactrone.

Other than that I'm sure others will help, but it's a good start

 

[jason267]

20/20/10/10.
take nothing else for now.

 

[DubStrength]

20/20/10/10.
take nothing else for now.

Again, I can't. Doc only gave me 10mg for a month. So I could only do 10/10/10/10. Would I be okay at this amount?

 

[Joshlm69]

Can't you just buy some off net?

 

[mixedup]

I don't want to get down on you because I feel bad for you whatever research you did that convinced you you didn't have to worry about fertility was young and the younger you start the greater the risk... I do think if you see a decent endocrinologist you will be able to get fertility back however if you had the gyno for several months now there is not much chance of reversing it aside from surgery sorry I know that sucks look up letro gyno reversal protocol and try that it's probably one of your better chances at at least reducing thenproblem

 

[DubStrength]

I don't want to get down on you because I feel bad for you whatever research you did that convinced you you didn't have to worry about fertility was young and the younger you start the greater the risk... I do think if you see a decent endocrinologist you will be able to get fertility back however if you had the gyno for several months now there is not much chance of reversing it aside from surgery sorry I know that sucks look up letro gyno reversal protocol and try that it's probably one of your better chances at at least reducing thenproblem

At this point, screw the gyno. I'm very much afraid about getting my natural test levels etc back and mostly about having a family when I'm older.

 

[mixedup]

At this point, screw the gyno. I'm very much afraid about getting my natural test levels etc back and mostly about having a family when I'm older.

You will want a dr who will prescribe you a Clomid restart protocol and monitor serm levels Clomid is the preferences method for increasing fertility I know from personal experience

 

[jason267]

When it comes to your health, listen to your doc. Most may not agree and want you to "play doctor" on yourself...but for now, for this month, take what your prescribed.

 

[jason267]

I don't want to get down on you because I feel bad for you whatever research you did that convinced you you didn't have to worry about fertility was young and the younger you start the greater the risk... I do think if you see a decent endocrinologist you will be able to get fertility back however if you had the gyno for several months now there is not much chance of reversing it aside from surgery sorry I know that sucks look up letro gyno reversal protocol and try that it's probably one of your better chances at at least reducing thenproblem

^hes right. You will need to see a endo, after this month of nolva.
Your young, so you need to get things back in order.

 

[jason267]

Does anyone know if Nolva can help lower and help with prolactin levels?

 

[mixedup]

When it comes to your health, listen to your doc. Most may not agree and want you to "play doctor" on yourself...but for now, for this month, take what your prescribed.

What kind of Dr prescribed you this protocol while it's true best to follow what a dr says you want to have a dr that specializes in your particular medical issue. You don't see a gi specialist for arthritis you know what I mean

 

[mixedup]

Does anyone know if Nolva can help lower and help with prolactin levels?

You would need caber or prami nolva might help but probably not to any noticeable degree

 

[jason267]

I guarantee you will end up worse if you listen to some anonymous internet "doctor" medical advice.

Exactly.
Take what you are prescribed, follow the steps, dont do internet overload. You will be fine man.

 

[mixedup]

Ask your doctor. Don't listen to the keyboard doctors. I'd go so far as to suggest you delete this thread, listen to your doctor and don't look back.

I agree with you 100% about listening to a dr. As many people know my wife is a nurse in medical speciality for one of the largest medical groups in CA she has worked in gi,endo,allergy,pedi etc. If his particular dr is not a specialist in the field he needs to get referred to one who will be much more knowledgeable on how to help his particular situation .

 

[jbryand101b]

Got my results back from my blood work. I've ran two PH cycles before, giving 2 months between each cycle to run the next one. I took cycle armor and took lecheek nutrition AD-3 PCT after both cycles. Never used a SERM or anything. Months after I realized I had some sort of small amount of gyno. Used the old Formastanzol with formastane in it last month. Felt like it reduced it some what. Now having itchy nipples and a tender feeling again I finally got bloods. This is what I got back.

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Doc wouldn't give me anything when I complained about the issue months ago. Now hes finally prescribed me a months supply of Tamoxifen at 10mg. Mind you I'm only 21 years old and have these levels and my Prolactin levels are very high. So I'm kind of scared ****tless. I was afraid to use PH's for the fear of not having children one day and the people who got me to take them assured me I was insane, and even research I did told me I was. Now my doctor is further scaring me about that now. At this point I just want my levels back to what someone my age should have and be able to have kids (hopefully I haven't done damage I can no longer reverse.) And possibly stopping the gyno from getting any worse or reversing it. Thoughts on my dosing anyone? I've seen 20/20/10/10 but with this amount I won't be able to pull that off. My doctor tells me not to, but should I take a natural test booster with this as well? Or taking Lecheek Nutrition T-X3 which has 50mg of arimistane in it too.

Any help would be great!

Your screwed. Hope them mad gainz were worth it.

Just kidding, give it time, like 6 months to a year and pray to Jesus for forgiveness for those gainz you received.

Reps for Jesus

 

[DubStrength]

I'm not going to do anything aside from listen to my doctor at this point. I just need some advice/feedback on all of this. Although he is a doctor they're still in the dark about steroids and the way we use them. I had to tell him what was most commonly used and the doses that I've seen etc etc. So if I could at least get some direction from someone who has gone through maybe what I'm going through. Or have blood work that's related and has taken certain steps to get better.

Will taking this on its own increase my testosterone a good amount before my next blood test in a month? I know nolva doesn't increase test, but rather let my body catch it up naturally I guess without being suppressed by the estrogen etc. If that's even correct.

I just need some straight answers, not false hope. Again I'm pretty damn frightened by all of this. He tells me natural test levels should be like 700 for my age and I'm cruising at 200. And the whole fertility thing has me afraid. I don't know what to think at this point so here I am basically pondering how the rest of my life is gonna play out from here lol. Bottom line, it was all never worth this but here we are.

 

[jason267]

What compounds did you use? (PH's and/or Aas)

 

[mixedup]

You never told me what type of Dr he is primary urologist endocrinologist typically trt and fertility issued by and endocrinologist and that's who you need to see you wouldn't see a dermatologist for lower intestine pain even though both are md's. If you are having to explain cycles and doses clearly you are speaking to the wrong physician to provide you with the most comprehensive help

 

[Dma378]

T-Bone I can't rep you from mobile but man you deserve it. OP listen to T-Bone, and that means listen to your doctor. The end

 

[DigitalB]

Bet you won't skip your serm anymore huh buddy lol

 

[jason267]

I would love to get a research company, or possibly a science lab at a university to do a study for the 10 top selling peptide companies...really see which one puts out a quality consistent product...Maybe do each companies Nolva, Clomid, and Torem.

I got banned from the PHF forum because i made some remarks about how Purity's claim to having "3rd Party Testing", seemed like bullsh@t. They wanted it to come across as EVERY single batch of each and every chem was 3rd party tested...no way. They never gave out any info or names of the testing labs.

Buying SERMs is a sketchy thing in my eyes...I hate knowing that what im putting in my body in high hopes for the liquid to do what its intended to do, may be complete crap.

 

[mixedup]

I believe purity's batches are tested by the man himself PA

 

[mixedup]

I thought I said in another post I am speaking on personal experience. I was on cycle and my wife and I decided we wanted another child. I had my pct do testosterone level and fertiltly.level tests I was way way below range so I was immediately referred to an endocrinologist who specialized in testosterone replacement therapy and fertility issues my physician was quite knowledgeable asking what compounds I was using doses even the different esthers of my compounds And wheny lady doses of each were. I am by no means trying to give medical advice I am not qualified but bottom line based on how you described your physician they are far less knowledgeable in the realm of pedal use and you need to see an MD who actually specializes in these issues

 

[jbryand101b]

I'm not going to do anything aside from listen to my doctor at this point. I just need some advice/feedback on all of this. Although he is a doctor they're still in the dark about steroids and the way we use them. I had to tell him what was most commonly used and the doses that I've seen etc etc. So if I could at least get some direction from someone who has gone through maybe what I'm going through. Or have blood work that's related and has taken certain steps to get better.

Will taking this on its own increase my testosterone a good amount before my next blood test in a month? I know nolva doesn't increase test, but rather let my body catch it up naturally I guess without being suppressed by the estrogen etc. If that's even correct.

I just need some straight answers, not false hope. Again I'm pretty damn frightened by all of this. He tells me natural test levels should be like 700 for my age and I'm cruising at 200. And the whole fertility thing has me afraid. I don't know what to think at this point so here I am basically pondering how the rest of my life is gonna play out from here lol. Bottom line, it was all never worth this but here we are.

Your doctor isn't going to know Jack squat about this area bro, sorry to break this too you.

 

[jason267]

I had to print up a old ingredients list, broken down, from a Hdrol cycle i did. So he would run my blood. Ha!
He never knew there was anything besides guys running straight Test.
Most doctors are old and fat...

 

[jbryand101b]

I had to print up a old ingredients list, broken down, from a Hdrol cycle i did. So he would run my blood. Ha!
He never knew there was anything besides guys running straight Test.
Most doctors are old and fat...

He spent 12 years studying the body, you spent 12 months building the body, who you gonna listen too....

 

[drummy]

OP outnf curiosity, what cycles did you do? PH, length etc.

Good luck brother youl be fine.