so... Ostarine as part of pct?

[oyvind]

so... As everyone seems to have different meanings about this, I would really appreciate some (more) answers:fool2:.. Is it ok to use ostarine as part of pct after halodrol cycle? Thinķing maybe 4 weeks at about 20 mg? Just guessing really, since I've never tried it. All input would be highly appreciated. And about my english... I'm still norwegian bros. Please read "as part of pct" not "as only pct". Thanx

 

[T-Bone]

No No No No No No.

 

[mountainman33]

No No No No No No.

Nailed it!

10 mgs maybe, but 20 will continue your shut down and PCT will be even longer before you're fully recovered.

 

[T-Bone]

Nailed it!

10 mgs maybe, but 20 will continue your shut down and PCT will be even longer before you're fully recovered.

3mgs will shut you down.

 

[oyvind]

Thanx mountainman. 10 mg for 4 weeks, it is. With or before pct? I was thinkin before, but with is ok too.

 

[hvactech]

And here we go...

 

[Canes325]

Whoever thought taking a suppressive product in PCT is bat ****. How did this even start?

 

[T-Bone]

Whoever thought taking a suppressive product in PCT is bat ****. How did this even start?

It was this guy,

 

[JoshRyan]

Don't take Ostarine in your PCT, period. I don't understand why it is an option.

 

[hvactech]

Don't take Ostarine in your PCT, period. I don't understand why it is an option.

Because plenty have and continue doing so....

 

[JoshRyan]

Why? Misinformed? Or am I misinformed? In my readings it is still suppressive. Less than any pro-hormone or AAS, but suppressive none the less. Does anyone have any bloods done to support using Osta in PCT?

 

[mountainman33]

If you check this forum there are all kinds of logs at differing doses. Since everyone is different people have differing results. You'd have to run your own "meta-study" and discern your information from there. Can't generalize with a compound like that.

 

[JoshRyan]

Interesting. Doesn't seem like a risk I would be willing to take. Doesn't seem worth it. That's just me though. We all make our own choices, I won't judge but I will advise against anyone who asks to use Osta in PCT. The compound itself lowers shbg according to lot of people's blood tests (that I have read)

 

[Loneyboy]

It is still suppressive, like taking real low dose halo in pct. Why? Why would you want that in your pct? If you really want something, get a natty t booster, but a serm like clomid, nolva, or torem will be sufficient, maybe an AI if you're worried about est rebound.

 

[mountainman33]

The idea of taking Osta during PCT is that it helps maintain the lean mass you just added. It used to be accepted to put on 10 to 15 lbs. of LBM and lose a few of that in PCT. Osta being a SARM in theory helps you keep almost all of your gains.

 

[Canes325]

The idea of taking Osta during PCT is that it helps maintain the lean mass you just added. It used to be accepted to put on 10 to 15 lbs. of LBM and lose a few of that in PCT. Osta being a SARM in theory helps you keep almost all of your gains.

Following the same thought process, wouldn't tapering your anabolic do the same thing? Help solidify your gains and let natural test pick up while still having the drug in your system?

 

[mountainman33]

In most cases as long as you have an endogenous hormone in your system, especially after a cycle, you're body isn't very likely to restart natural production until that hormone isn't in your system. That's why people run their cycles at full tilt until the end.

 

[Canes325]

In most cases as long as you have an endogenous hormone in your system, especially after a cycle, you're body isn't very likely to restart natural production until that hormone isn't in your system. That's why people run their cycles at full tilt until the end.

I think you mean exogenous hormone, but tapering your anabolic 1 or 2 weeks into PCT would accomplish the same thing.

 

[mountainman33]

I think you mean exogenous hormone, but tapering your anabolic 1 or 2 weeks into PCT would accomplish the same thing.

You're right, exogenous, sorry, long day so far. But if tapering actually worked the way you're suggesting don't you think that everyone who runs orals would do that every time?

 

[Canes325]

You're right, exogenous, sorry, long day so far. But if tapering actually worked the way you're suggesting don't you think that everyone who runs orals would do that every time?

they used to back in the day. The way I see it is you run your cycle, suppress your natty production of T. Then try to recover it ASAP. Adding ostarine in pct only slows down recovery. So let's just say we want to use it to solidly gains. How much do we use? 5mg? Maybe 10mg? All suppressive dosages. I think what 3mg showed suppression? I just don't see the upside vs downside

 

[hvactech]

Interesting. Doesn't seem like a risk I would be willing to take. Doesn't seem worth it. That's just me though. We all make our own choices, I won't judge but I will advise against anyone who asks to use Osta in PCT. The compound itself lowers shbg according to lot of people's blood tests (that I have read)

But yet you are judging... I use it and will continue using it... ill try and pull some old lab work at 5mgs post cycle

 

[Canes325]

But yet you are judging... I use it and will continue using it... ill try and pull some old lab work at 5mgs post cycle

I'd be curious as to what would be better, 5mg osta vs serm and an AI. How long do you run the osta and what dosages?
Eta- or even using any natty anabolic

 

[JoshRyan]

But yet you are judging... I use it and will continue using it... ill try and pull some old lab work at 5mgs post cycle

I am not judging you or your choice to use Osta in PCT but if you asked my opinion I would advise against it. More power to you if you have the balls to do it (catch that pun?) haha

 

[T-Bone]

The idea of taking Osta during PCT is that it helps maintain the lean mass you just added. It used to be accepted to put on 10 to 15 lbs. of LBM and lose a few of that in PCT. Osta being a SARM in theory helps you keep almost all of your gains.

This makes absolutely no sense. Especially that last part!.

 

[muscle inc.]

I don't think anyone thinks it's ok to run osta alone for pct. if you are gonna use it definitely do it WITH a serm and ai.

 

[oyvind]

Thanx muscle inc for bringing back the original q. Not as standalone, but as part of pct. Appreciate all the feedback from you other guys too. Dont know anything about ostarine myself, so this is really helpful.

 

[mountainman33]

This makes absolutely no sense. Especially that last part!.

Then why did people start adding Osta in low doses to their PCT?

 

[oyvind]

Then why did people start adding Osta in low doses to their PCT?

Yep, why? Guess I'll have to try, and get some bloods:fingersx:

 

[mountainman33]

Yep, why? Guess I'll have to try, and get some bloods:fingersx:

I already explained why, t-bone just tends to be a little crabby from time to time.

 

[oyvind]

Ok, so mountainman sounds as he know what hes talking about, so I'll stick to his advice. Thanx

 

[mountainman33]

Ok, so mountainman sounds as he know what hes talking about, so I'll stick to his advice. Thanx

I'm just giving my opinion, so just remember that. I'm not prescribing anything.

 

[hvactech]

I don't think anyone thinks it's ok to run osta alone for pct. if you are gonna use it definitely do it WITH a serm and ai.

Ostarine is definitely not to be used AS pct but can be included on top of a serm

 

[hvactech]

This makes absolutely no sense. Especially that last part!.

What he means is the fact ostarine was designed to prevent muscle breakdown, wasting, and preserve lean mass

 

[hvactech]

I already explained why, t-bone just tends to be a little crabby from time to time.

Especially when he misses his morning ensure

 

[oyvind]

So if anyone have tried these, do you recommend brawn's ostabol/ostarine or olympus labs ostar1ne? Thinking olympus labs myself, but they send from usa, and ther may be difficulties shipping from usa to norway. I can get brawn ostabol from uk, and uk packages almost never get stopped. But quality...?:dunno:

 

[T-Bone]

Then why did people start adding Osta in low doses to their PCT?

Because some "bro" must have decided to run it in PCT be he knew better. Than after that "Monkey See, Monkey do."

 

[Smont]

I hate threads like this. Op is only listening to those who tell him what he wanted to hear.

I dont agree or disagree. Everyone is different and if you want a real answer go try it and let everyone know how it goes.

 

[mixedup]

Ok ok the OG is here....... let's do this ostarine is suppressive ostarine is pretty mild non liver toxic best way to use and solidify gains is to bridge from your as or ph into ostarine and then after that do a full pct other wise your wasting your pct

 

[Smont]

Ok ok the OG is here....... let's do this ostarine is suppressive ostarine is pretty mild non liver toxic best way to use and solidify gains is to bridge from your as or ph into ostarine and then after that do a full pct other wise your wasting your pct

So say your cycle ends week8, then 9-12 you run osta then pct.
Basically just exteding your cycle.

 

[mixedup]

So say your cycle ends week8, then 9-12 you run osta then pct.
Basically just exteding your cycle.

If you run an 8 week cycle its not really needed with an oral cycle because most gains come early on so you already have a chance to solidify but if you were running say a 4 week cycle then imo that would be a time you could think about bridoing to ostarine.

 

[oyvind]

Ok ok the OG is here....... let's do this ostarine is suppressive ostarine is pretty mild non liver toxic best way to use and solidify gains is to bridge from your as or ph into ostarine and then after that do a full pct other wise your wasting your pct

Thanx mixedup. Just what I was hoping to hear, or "want to hear" as smont so cleverly commented. I'll go for it.

 

[Smont]

If you run an 8 week cycle its not really needed with an oral cycle because most gains come early on so you already have a chance to solidify but if you were running say a 4 week cycle then imo that would be a time you could think about bridoing to ostarine.

I was just using that as a model. I get what your saying

 

[oyvind]

btw, my cycle will be 5 weeks halodrol at 100mg , followed by 3 weeks epistane at 40mg.(harsh, I know. But will still do this with liver supps) After that I'll do 3 weeks ostarine at 10-15mg, and 4-6 weeks pct afterwards. So, I'll let people know mid-july how it all went. :deal:

 

[mountainman33]

Put up a log?

 

[oyvind]

Put up a log?

Never logged before, but I will do that actually:cheers:

 

[warbird01]

Then why did people start adding Osta in low doses to their PCT?

Same reason people used to low dose epi in their PCT.

Most people don't know their right from their left when it comes to PCT.

Just because someone recovered with their Osta PCT doesn't mean it was an optimal PCT.

 

[mixedup]

Same reason people used to low dose epi in their PCT.

Most people don't know their right from their left when it comes to PCT.

Just because someone recovered with their Osta PCT doesn't mean it was an optimal PCT.

Pct is way to complicated now a days you know what we had when I started... tamoxifen or Clomid ldex aromasin torem natty boosters none of that was out and we all did fine

 

[T-Bone]

Same reason people used to low dose epi in their PCT.

Most people don't know their right from their left when it comes to PCT.

Just because someone recovered with their Osta PCT doesn't mean it was an optimal PCT.

It's simple. If you're running anabolics in PCT, it's not PCT it's part of the cycle.

 

[warbird01]

Pct is way to complicated now a days you know what we had when I started... tamoxifen or Clomid ldex aromasin torem natty boosters none of that was out and we all did fine

Every "generation" has their misguided PCTs. Pretty sure ppl used to run low dose anavar in pct. Then like 5 yrs ago it was low dose epi, now it's osta.

I almost considered running osta in my PCT (5mg) to just test it out for myself then came to my sense and realized I would rather not potentially screw up my hormones just to prove a point lol

 

[hvactech]

Thats assuming a post cycle is even used at all.... I remember an old co-worker use to pop dbol like candy all year long and never heard the term "pct"