New cycle - havoc + tren

[shadowboy]

Hello all guys,
I'll go directly into the issue: I wanna start a new cycle, the main goal is cutting and if possible, to get some lean mass.
I'm 77kg (170 lbs), 182 cm ( 71") height and 17% BF (taken by scale, don't know how much accurate it is, take in account 6 pack is visible but not than lean).
This is my third cycle, the other two were havoc solo, 6 weeks long each, very good results; this time i wanna try if stacking,something good can be added.
Keep in mind I can use only 1 bottle (90 pills x 30 mg each) of Tr3n Olympus labs, but I'm plenty of havoc instead.
My project is the following:

Week 1: 8 caps CEL Cycle assist per day;
Week 2: 8 caps CEL Cycle assist per day;
Week 3: 8 caps CEL Cycle assist per day + 30 mg Havoc per day + 30 mg Tr3n per day;
Week 4: 8 caps CEL Cycle assist per day + 40 mg Havoc per day + 60 mg Tr3n per day;
Week 5: 8 caps CEL Cycle assist per day + 40 mg Havoc per day + 60 mg Tr3n per day;
Week 6: 8 caps CEL Cycle assist per day + 40 mg Havoc per day + 60 mg Tr3n per day;
Week 7: 8 caps CEL Cycle assist per day + 50 mg Havoc per day + 90 mg Tr3n per day;
Week 8: 8 caps CEL Cycle assist per day + 50 mg Havoc per day + 90 mg Tr3n per day;
Week 9 - 10: 20 mg nolva per day + 2 caps ZMA per day
Week 11 - 12: 10 mg nolva per day + 1 cap ZMA per day

What do you think about this cycle?
What can I expect from a cycle like this? Will I be able to lose 3-4% BF and maybe add some lean mass? Is the PCT safe enough?
Any advice is welcome

 

[mgkoret]

This looks good brother. You may add an OTC pct product like Sup3r PCT from OL that would help with support.
Have you AI on hand in case of rebound
And maybe reduct xt for cortisol control in pct.
Otherwise it looks good. Nice research.
Drop in bf% will all be diet. Eat clean and drop carbs down some and you should lean out fine

 

[shadowboy]

Thanks buddy! Someone suggests to decrease the dosage of havoc as soon as the cycle is finishing (like 4-5 days before), is this correct or I shouldn't care about it?

 

[hvactech]

No need to preload your cycle supports

 

[mgkoret]

Dont taper off, just go inti pct the next day after cycle. Youll be fine.

 

[shadowboy]

Ok I won't. Do you think AI is necessary, or nolva is enough? I'm just asking it since I don't have an AI on hand, and I don't wanna waste money if not strictly necessary
In any case, I could buy one if necessary and meanwhile, continuing using nolva, isn't it?
Which would be the symptoms of the rebound?

 

[mgkoret]

I ALWAYS keep an AI in hand. Every cycle.
Will you need it? Maybe not. But if you end up needing it, best to hsve it in the closet than lost in the mail.
Exemestane is my ai of choice.

Sides can show up months after end of cycle in some cases. Itchy nips, puffiness, potential gyno. Havoc is notorious for it

 

[shadowboy]

Ok I'll follow your advice and i decided to change ZMA with SNS Inhibit-E, since in my understanding it will allow to reach further gains/cuts.
Is my understanding correct and furthermore, is it a good AI?

 

[yates84]

Ok I'll follow your advice and i decided to change ZMA with SNS Inhibit-E, since in my understanding it will allow to reach further gains/cuts.
Is my understanding correct and furthermore, is it a good AI?

Inhibit e is a good otc ai but I would have the exemestane on hand as suggested by mgkoret. Have you looked into natural anabolics for your pct? Check out epic and dermastrength from Olympus labs, I kept all my gains in pct last cycle with these in my pct. Look at my signature for 30% off any OL product. We also make eliminate, a great otc ai for your cycle

 

[shadowboy]

I just discovered the inhibit-e I found in europe was the newest version (without ph), so I am prone to buy Nolvadren-XT. What you think about it??

 

[jason267]

dont mean to hijack your thread...

But i have a old bottle of inhibit E, and i know it is ATD...supposedly a very strong anti e (for otc).
Question is, if i feel some gyno related/estro while on cycle, would one inhibit E be a good anti E to start on, or would Erase be a better, less drastic choice?
Just thinking towards a future Alpha1 cycle.

ATD - 3, 17-keto etiochol-triene 25mg
ERASE - Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione - 25mg (Armistane)