What to use as "test" base for DMZ

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Or everything for a DMZ cycle but with trest and formeron gone I have no idea what to use for a "test base"

I'm really just looking to keep libido because my wife will kill me if I lose it. I've heard dermacrine but I've also heard it's actually terrible as a base.

So what else do you guys have?
 
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4 andro is a good test base
 
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Platinum Nutras Andro 300 is a TD epi Andro product that converts to Dht. That should work well for ya
Hit me up with any questions
 
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Is dermacrin currently legal ?
 
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4 Andros 40$ a bottle at 50mg 60 caps....thats like minimum 6 bottles for 4 weeks.
 
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Or everything for a DMZ cycle but with trest and formeron gone I have no idea what to use for a "test base"

I'm really just looking to keep libido because my wife will kill me if I lose it. I've heard dermacrine but I've also heard it's actually terrible as a base.

So what else do you guys have?

Using dermacrine for Msten cycle currently and it's working well for me. Gonna do DMZ in the future and will use this or else androvar. The topical andro from platinum nutraceuticals looks good as well.
 
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Pick up the re release of sustain alpha from BPS
 
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I just ran a dmz 3.0 cycle i used dermacrine 3 pumps a day and 2-3 4andro a day. Worked great in my opinion no libido issues i was only lethargic around the end off week two because i was just using dermacrine, i added the 4andro shortly after and it cleared up, felt great. I believe the 4andro also has some kinda "feel good" **** in it. No complaints it wasnt as good as tr3st but it was nice all the same. Was running dmz3 3cap/day 4andro 3/day dermacrine 3 pumps a day.
 
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I was gonna use 4 andro until I read this. Thanks haha
That's why I'm lookin at least he new androvar for on hard rock supplements. Full 6 weeks of epi-andro at maximum best dosage for 60$. Thats less than half of what the 4 andro would cost to run at the proper dose.
 
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That's why I'm lookin at least he new androvar for on hard rock supplements. Full 6 weeks of epi-andro at maximum best dosage for 60$. Thats less than half of what the 4 andro would cost to run at the proper dose.
Those of us who took advantage of the 50% off sale will enjoy it nicely
 
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Could always check ebay.... seen a bottle of vital labs epi for 200$ lmao...
 
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Those of us who took advantage of the 50% off sale will enjoy it nicely
Yeah. I missed out on that one. I need to slow down and read through these promo emails a little better��. Still a heck of a deal at 60 compared to the alternatives though. Hope you stocked up good.
 
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I just ran a dmz 3.0 cycle i used dermacrine 3 pumps a day and 2-3 4andro a day. Worked great in my opinion no libido issues i was only lethargic around the end off week two because i was just using dermacrine, i added the 4andro shortly after and it cleared up, felt great. I believe the 4andro also has some kinda "feel good" **** in it. No complaints it wasnt as good as tr3st but it was nice all the same. Was running dmz3 3cap/day 4andro 3/day dermacrine 3 pumps a day.
This is the plan I ended up going with.
A bit pricey

2 bottles of 4 andro
2 of dermacrine so I'll see how well this ends up working
 
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Best test base is test c or e. I wouldn't even waste my time with that oral bs.
 
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Trest is still available...
 
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I haven't been able to find it anywhere
pure oils has been selling Celtics stuff since the ban. Ok tends to have stocking/website issues tho so it's hard to get it sometimes
 
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Is dermacrin currently legal ?
Yes dermacrine is legal. Here are the ingredients:

DHEA - 72mg
7,8-Benzoflavone (99%) - 36mg
Resveratrol (99%) - 36mg
Pregnenolone - 18mg
Chrysin (99%) - 9mg

All definitely legal.
 
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Yes dermacrine is legal. Here are the ingredients:

DHEA - 72mg
7,8-Benzoflavone (99%) - 36mg
Resveratrol (99%) - 36mg
Pregnenolone - 18mg
Chrysin (99%) - 9mg

All definitely legal.
The problem with derma is it dosent last long
 
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Im referencing the servings
 
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Im referencing the servings
Isnt it 4 pumps per serving with that a bottle lasts 30 days. I found 4 pumps to be adequate for a light cycle
 
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Isnt it 4 pumps per serving with that a bottle lasts 30 days. I found 4 pumps to be adequate for a light cycle
I thought it was 5 pumps per serving, 23 servings in a bottle

But I'll be running dmz at 40 for 2 and 60 for 4. So idk if that's considered a light cycle
 
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1 pump =1 serving. 130 servings per bottle. 4 pumps recommended for 190-230 lbs. 5 for anyone bigger.
 
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I thought it was 5 pumps per serving, 23 servings in a bottle

But I'll be running dmz at 40 for 2 and 60 for 4. So idk if that's considered a light cycle
I wouldn't consider that light but I'm only on my 2nd real cycle. Msten is really giving me lethargy but the Dermacrine helps. I tried to only dose on workout days but I felt like crap. At 4 full pumps per day the bottle is going down fast but I hope to squeeze 30 days out of it. I plan a 4 week DMZ 2.0 cycle next.
 
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I thought it was 5 pumps per serving, 23 servings in a bottle

But I'll be running dmz at 40 for 2 and 60 for 4. So idk if that's considered a light cycle
This is what the bottle states.. sustained alpha is 130 pumps
 

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