dmz vs msten - shutdown

[hyperCat]

Assuming equivalent dosing for each respective compound, which one is likely to shut you down harder - dmz or msten? I'm guessing msten for most people?

 

[Volvo140G]

Beats me

 

[JPSwole]

Ive taken both id say Msten

 

[heavylifter33]

You're basically asking this question: which fruit will i like more, an apple or an orange?

 

[hvactech]

Assuming equivalent dosing for each respective compound, which one is likely to shut you down harder - dmz or msten? I'm guessing msten for most people?

The dosing for each is incomparable....

 

[hyperCat]

jesus dude. u joined in 2008. plz tell me ur gonna be running test with those compounds

What does it matter when I joined this forum DUDE! And no, I don't run test, but I run a test base. Thanks for all the useful info tho - Jesus!

 

[hyperCat]

You're basically asking this question: which fruit will i like more, an apple or an orange?

Uh, sure. Okay.

 

[hyperCat]

Ive taken both id say Msten

Thank you for a straight up response to a basic question! Glad someone could understand the question and formulate a response without being an azzhole.

 

[hyperCat]

The dosing for each is incomparable....

Well, each compound has it's own typical/recommended dosing, so that was the context of the question.

 

[heavylifter33]

Thank you for a straight up response to a basic question! Glad someone could understand the question and formulate a response without being an azzhole.

lmao so it's our fault you don't understand biology and endocrinology? What you're asking can't be answered with a simple yes/no.

 

[Volvo140G]

 

[matt21irby21]

From what I read on very many forums, Msten shuts you down faster as far as mg to mg. But I run test E with every cycle so I've never experienced shut down.

 

[AnthroLats]

But I run test E with every cycle so I've never experienced shut down.

If you run test E with every cycle, wouldn't that mean you've almost guaranteed you're always shut down?

 

[matt21irby21]

Well considering my boys are still normal size, and my fiancé is thirteen weeks pregnant, I'd say no.

 

[booneman77]

"Shutdown" is an inaccurate term. Suppression is more valid as it's almost impossible to completely remove all natural test production.

Also, suppression doesn't mean you can't have functional sperm so that's a poor validation for level of suppression.

Op, it's not really a matter of which will suppress you more. Either one will suppress you to a great degree ( enough that it would be a nasty recovery without proper pct) so it really won't matter

 

[heavylifter33]

"Shutdown" is an inaccurate term. Suppression is more valid as it's almost impossible to completely remove all natural test production.

Also, suppression doesn't mean you can't have functional sperm so that's a poor validation for level of suppression.

Op, it's not really a matter of which will suppress you more. Either one will suppress you to a great degree ( enough that it would be a nasty recovery without proper pct) so it really won't matter

Ding ding ding.

 

[Dma378]

Running Test E...guaranteed suppression.

 

[Dma378]

And as Rhadam stated earlier, this is an impossible question to answer. It's case by case. Msten was my first cycle and although I'm sure it shut me down, I didn't feel my balls ache and shrink like I did about a week into DMZ. DMZ straight sucked them into my body...painfully!!

 

[Swolljaboi]

I felt more suppression on epistane than I do on msten. Msten is one of my favorites.

 

[Swolljaboi]

24 mg. It is liquid and comes in 12mg per .5ml doses.

 

[jgntyce]

I felt more suppression on epistane than I do on msten. Msten is one of my favorites.

back pumps were a b**** on Epistane..

 

[hyperCat]

lmao so it's our fault you don't understand biology and endocrinology? What you're asking can't be answered with a simple yes/no.

Oh my bad - didn't know we had to have a degree in biology and endocrinology to participate on this forum. It's all good tho, thanks for your time.

 

[hyperCat]

What do you use for test base?

Either 4-dhea or trest

 

[hyperCat]

"Shutdown" is an inaccurate term. Suppression is more valid as it's almost impossible to completely remove all natural test production.

Also, suppression doesn't mean you can't have functional sperm so that's a poor validation for level of suppression.

Op, it's not really a matter of which will suppress you more. Either one will suppress you to a great degree ( enough that it would be a nasty recovery without proper pct) so it really won't matter

Thanks for the info. I know everyone responds differently, but it's not unreasonable to say that most people would get much more suppressed on something like SD vs. halo. I was just wondering what the same comparison would be between dmz vs. msten, generally speaking. I've tried DMZ, and it took a lot longer to recover than most other ph's I've tried ( I ran clomid for pct ). I've not tried msten, so just looking for some comparisons from people who have run both.