epistane done f**k all

[Paddyb85]

Well just finished my epistane cycle. Last three weeks at 40mg. Nothing out of It atall. All I got was a little suppression. And a strange sense of being. started my clomid and daa and creatine today and erase pro is going to kick in 3 weeks time, feel.I've wasted lots of money and time, and not socialising etc for nothing. Has anyone else got nothing from it at this dose or is it just me? Really pissing me off having put my body through all this and having to spend more time on a pct for nothing. Anyway just thought I should vent and share my wasted experience with you all.

 

[Volvo140G]

Feel better Paddy!

Xoxo Volvo

 

[mgkoret]

We need some more info on your cycle there sport. Maybe we can deduce the issue if we have your layout

 

[dbrock504]

I have actually had a similar experience. I have noticed nothing except suppression. I am taking tren also though.

With that said, I have noticed a drastic physical difference without loosing a lb. I don't know if I attribute that to the epi or the tren, but my experience with epi hasn't been a super great one either. You're not alone. And I eat very well and strict along with a coach.

 

[abformulations]

Hard not to see anything from epi. Sucks for you

 

[Canes325]

Curious who's epi were you running? Also what was the layout?

 

[barrymcokiner]

I've heard a lot of non-responders to Epi- probably why it is the only compound I haven't ran yet. I'm sure it works, but I always ran something besides it.

 

[barrymcokiner]

Jesus Christ- who is that chick also?

 

[dbrock504]

Curious who's epi were you running? Also what was the layout?

Not speaking for OP, but similar issue and I used Olympus Labs Ep15tane at 30/45/45/45/45/45

 

[Tabascoonall]

sorry to all who didn't feel anything, everybody is different i guess. i loved my run, how did you set up your cycle OP?

 

[Paddyb85]

Thanks for the replies guys.
It was German pharmaceuticals epistane I was using

Cycle

Epistane 20 30 40 40 40
Cycle assist as recommended
Fish oils 2000mg ed
Glucosamine 1500mg ed
Multivitamins

Started the first few days with tren too but had a **** reaction with that so rather than call it quits I just cut the tren.

Glad to hear I'm not the only one that never got anything from it. Obv not glad for people not benefiting but you known what I mean.

I've run methastadrol couple times great results. But but by no means was I expecting similar results obviously.

 

[MindWarrior]

Interesting, I guess it just depends on the person although a lot of people run it higher like 100 mg a day.

 

[herderdude]

Should have gone 40 all the way through. 20 does nothing, 30 is reeeally low, 40 is nice. Could be bunk stuff, I hadn't heard of that company, not that THAT means anything. Epi takes about three weeks to kick in, as well. I much prefer 6 weeks over 5 on epi.

 

[Paddyb85]

Yeah I know 20 was low but It was first week intro stack with tren, tbh I upped it to 30 soon as the tren stopped which was about 4 days in. Plus I ain't a big guy, I'm only 5'4" and 12 stone., strong wee ****er though haha but maybe a higher dose would work better. But imo if gonna run epi at mental doses surely it harshness on the old liver and sides would be similar to that's superdrol at normal doses would it not,and if that's the case,hell I know what I would opt for. Pmsl.
I was planning on 6 weeks but cut it short as i experienced nothing atall didn't see the point in an extra week. Didn't plan timing right anyways, have my 30th in 4 weeks time so I want to be done with it in and the clomid for then. Obviously I wana have a few bevys to celebrate, as you do.

Yeah I can't find alot on them but anywhere that does sell there stuff has decent reviews. And the company I used to buy Ive used before and everything was kl., defo had a little suppression and the tren was pretty potent also same brand. But you never know I suppose. I will stay away from the brand regardless though just incase. Lol

 

[bobi593]

epistane hit or miss...

 

[Paddyb85]

That's reassuring mate. Lol. Atleast I know now. Epistane don't work on me and then doesn't agree with me. Cutting will just have to entail good hard cardio pmsl.

Stick to ma superdrol I think.

 

[Paddyb85]

Also never read any negative feedback on epi. Well apart.from people claiming it's to mild but I'm guessing they where expecting mega results from a relatively mild product. But never read anyone mentioning it didn't work. All noted in a mind now though pmsl. Having to use clomid for no reason now lol

 

[herderdude]

40mg isn't a mental dose. Relatively mild on the body with good results. I may respond better to it than many. 60 is when I start getting uncomfortable back and calf pumps all the time and appetite suppression. But yeah, if you're a superdrol fan, then epistane isn't going to blow you away. Live and learn, man.

And remember, if you're suppressed, it's important to take your Clomid, so don't think of it as all for naught.

 

[Kodaraw]

Interesting, I guess it just depends on the person although a lot of people run it higher like 100 mg a day.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone run 100 mg of Epi a day. Halo, yes. Epi, no.

 

[Swolljaboi]

I got effing huge on Epi. Sucks that it didn't work for you bro.

 

[Paddyb85]

Herderdude.
I didn't mean the clomid for nought, I meant I need to cycle it as a result of my epi cycle which gave me nothing. As in if I hadn't taken the epi I would be no.different and not need the clomid lol. My suppression doesn't appear to.Very bad. Just noticed the old man juice wasn't building up as quick as usual haha. And indeed wasn't expecting superdrol results. As I said it was meant to be an epi /tren cut cycle but the tren didn't agree so just seen the epi through. So massive results I didn't expect but maybe I should have upped to 60. But when I mentioned mental.high doses I was referring to the 100mg mentioned. Then I wouldn't see the point if the sides and toxicity which would Prob be as bad if not worse than a normal 20-30 mg superdrol course. Superdrol would defo win if that was the case lol

 

[Paddyb85]

Thanks swolljaboy, glad you had good results. What was your cycle?

 

[Swolljaboi]

Thanks swolljaboy, glad you had good results. What was your cycle?

I ran 40/40/40/40/50/60
Most of my weight gain was in the middle of the cycle, didn't gain much in the last couple of weeks. I also ran Stano with it to combat lethargy. I gained 15 lbs and kept 12 after PCT. It was a great cycle.

 

[MindWarrior]

I don't think I've ever seen anyone run 100 mg of Epi a day. Halo, yes. Epi, no.

Maybe not on this board.. it is mild so 100mg is a dose that is not too crazy.

 

[bobi593]

Maybe not on this board.. it is mild so 100mg is a dose that is not too crazy.

what dosage of epistane is pretty crazy in your opinion ???

 

[MindWarrior]

150-200 mg range

 

[dbrock504]

what dosage of epistane is pretty crazy in your opinion ???

anything +60 is crazy

 

[mgkoret]

Yeah I ran it 30/40/50/60/60/60 and by the end of it I was pretty drained. But I loved it at 60

 

[dbrock504]

Yeah I ran it 30/40/50/60/60/60 and by the end of it I was pretty drained. But I loved it at 60

In retrospect, I should have bumped week 5-6 to 60 after I felt nothing. Live and learn

 

[Atreyufan31]

I'm currently running 40mg of Havoc (epi clone) in week 4 and haven't seen any sides but gained strength and 9 pounds.

Think I should bump to 50mgs?
Maybe 60mgs?

6'2" 200lbs

 

[Swolljaboi]

I didn't see any benefit from 50 to 60. 50 was good though.

 

[bobi593]

150-200 mg range

100-200 it's too heavy for most of the guys let be honest if you do not have good gains on 50-60 extra 100 will not change anything Especially if you use epi first time

 

[MindWarrior]

100-200 it's too heavy for most of the guys let be honest if you do not have good gains on 50-60 extra 100 will not change anything Especially if you use epi first time

Correct i'm talking about if you had multiple times using different orals.. I have used 20 mg of superdrol a day and also 40 mg of superdrol a day.. not much benefits with the extra 20 mg for superdrol. But I have taken 50 mg and 100 mg of epi a day and the 100 mg was better for me.

 

[mgkoret]

Correct i'm talking about if you had multiple times using different orals.. I have used 20 mg of superdrol a day and also 40 mg of superdrol a day.. not much benefits with the extra 20 mg for superdrol. But I have taken 50 mg and 100 mg of epi a day and the 100 mg was better for me.

Dang at 100mg id need a new liver haha

 

[bobi593]

Dang at 100mg id need a new liver haha

and wig -

 

[TacTownbeast]

Estrogen could have been to low. I had strange sides on Epi/Stano @ 4 I had to stop. Dosed it@ 40/800. All my sides pointed to to low of estrogen.

 

[MindWarrior]

Dang at 100mg id need a new liver haha

Hahah yea orals are ok but its really bad if you drink at the same time I don't anymore but when I did both at the same time I pissed blood once.

 

[Atreyufan31]

Hahah yea orals are ok but its really bad if you drink at the same time I don't anymore but when I did both at the same time I pissed blood once.

When you say "drinking0... How much and often are you talking about?

 

[mgkoret]

When you say "drinking0... How much and often are you talking about?

You really shouldn't drink at all on cycle. Methyls are hard enough on the body's filtering systems as it is. I have once or twice if the occasion called for it but only like 1 beer. Never any more than that. Maybe 2 drinks on a whole 8 week cycle and pct.

 

[Atreyufan31]

You really shouldn't drink at all on cycle. Methyls are hard enough on the body's filtering systems as it is. I have once or twice if the occasion called for it but only like 1 beer. Never any more than that. Maybe 2 drinks on a whole 8 week cycle and pct.

Dang that few and your urine had blood? That's scary! I know drinking on orals is dangerous but that's wild. I did have two beers the other day (first time drinking on cycle and last time) but that makes me even more sketched about about my impulse decision.

 

[mgkoret]

Dang that few and your urine had blood? That's scary! I know drinking on orals is dangerous but that's wild. I did have two beers the other day (first time drinking on cycle and last time) but that makes me even more sketched about about my impulse decision.

Wrong guy. MindWarrior had the blood issue. But I could def tell more stress on my body when I did drink on cycle IMO.

 

[MindWarrior]

When you say "drinking0... How much and often are you talking about?

6 beers every other night.. was not a smart thing and I knew it was very bad to do.

 

[Atreyufan31]

6 beers every other night.. was not a smart thing and I knew it was very bad to do.

Well that does make me feel more at ease to my 1 a week...

I'm a huge craft beer nerd so staying sober is the hardest part of the cycle

 

[zagsfan20]

This is a bogus review. How did you up the dosage to 30mg a day when they come in 20mg capsules? Did you empty out the powder in the capsules and refill? Seems like a lot of work to just get the 30mg when you can just do 40mg.

I'm just starting my second go around. I gained around 8lbs and lots of strength first go around.

 

[ChocolateClen]

WHHHHHOOOOOOO REVIVE! Yeah! Let's bring it back to life!

 

[ericos_bob]

I probably wasted more money on Andro's. At 950mg (Total) ED of 1-andro,4-andro and EpiAndro I didn't even get the benefit of a shrunken nut sack. Know how you feel.

 

[zagsfan20]

I'm currently running 40mg of Havoc (epi clone) in week 4 and haven't seen any sides but gained strength and 9 pounds.

Think I should bump to 50mgs?
Maybe 60mgs?

6'2" 200lbs

40mg has been the sweet spot for me. I went up to 60mg and no difference in strength but more sides.