Good beginner PH after the ban

[Joedoubledose]

Anyone have any good beginner PH suggestions for products that are still legal ? I'd like to grab a bottle or two for future use. I've heard Epi- andro may be good as well as M-sten . Any input would be great.

 

[Dma378]

Ostar1ne can be a good first cycle. Little sides and a light pct to get your feet wet.

 

[zcol94]

What are your goals for this cycle? Cut? Bulk? Recomp?

 

[Joedoubledose]

im currently taking ostarine for a 4 week cycle then possibly extending it to 6 weeks I was curious specifically to PH's not SARM's

 

[Joedoubledose]

id like to bulk , preferably lean bulking so something that's going to have dry gains.

 

[Dma378]

id like to bulk , preferably lean bulking so something that's going to have dry gains.

DMZ is great for a lean dry bulk.

 

[zcol94]

Dmz is awesome, hardness, vascularity, and some definite mass gains, I'm about 6 weeks in right now on a dmz/ trest cycle

 

[LeanEngineer]

Yea i'd go with DMZ. http://www.strongsupplementshop.com/dmz-info

 

[Joedoubledose]

Thanks everyone , I'll make sure to grab some before it gets banned aswell . Hopefully it doesnt

 

[Joedoubledose]

Any pct suggestions when running a dmz cycle , serm type and dosage ? I know everyone has a preference but I allways enjoy to hear people's opinions

 

[Leftyz]

Someone told me on a similar post that Msten was tamer and safer than dmz....especially for less sides for a newbie.
Is that not correct?
I also believe those are the only 2 last legal ones?

 

[Afi140]

Any pct suggestions when running a dmz cycle , serm type and dosage ? I know everyone has a preference but I allways enjoy to hear people's opinions

serm is preference and will always be debated. Some love nolva and some love clomid. You will have to see what works for you. Other than that For pct I would add an ai, reduce xt, daa, and the serm you choose. I also run cycle assist and TUDCA through pct.

http://www.strongsupplementshop.com/reduce-xt-by-serious-nutrition-solutions

http://www.strongsupplementshop.com/daa-max-by-vital-labs

http://www.strongsupplementshop.com/cycle-assist-by-competitive-edge-labs

http://www.strongsupplementshop.com/tudca-by-premium-powders

 

[DrakeC]

Along those same lines what would be a good beginner PH to use while cutting?

 

[dvw]

was mechabol banned?

 

[sinewave3]

Someone told me on a similar post that Msten was tamer and safer than dmz....especially for less sides for a newbie. Is that not correct? I also believe those are the only 2 last legal ones?

Everyone is different but msten tends to be a bit harsher for most compared to dmz.

 

[Joedoubledose]

Bump

 

[JPSwole]

Everyone is different but msten tends to be a bit harsher for most compared to dmz.

Id have to agree with that

 

[Joedoubledose]

I'd plan to run something like 4 ad alongside it but I didn't know you can get from uk

 

[roboa89]

Can anyone pm me with any good places to order some of the ph that they banned that can be gotten from uk? I'll prolly run msten and epi andro first but I'd like some sources for future reference.

 

[T-Bone]

Msten or DMZ for a first cycle?. Those are awful choices for a first timer.

 

[T-Bone]

Here is an excellent choice for a first time run,

http://platinumnutra.com/andro-300-90ml/

 

[Joedoubledose]

I just searched uk PH's on Google it's not hard to find

 

[TheKing7]

was mechabol banned?

Yes.