Designer Steroids Now Illegal

[heavyiron]

It is done

Signed on December 18, 2014
Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2014

Signed Legislation | The White House

 

[Jackedjack]

So is it illegal to buy let's say DMZ today or no?

 

[heavyiron]

All compunds on the list are officially scheduled steroids.

The attorney general may add any future compounds under the criteria. There will then be a 30 day grace period for added compounds only.

 

[RickyBlobby]

Can you post a copy of the list please

 

[heavyiron]

The 25 compounds now illegal (and the brief descriptions or common names) are:

5α-Androstan-3,6,17-trione
(A saturated/’5a-reduced’ form of 6-oxo)

6-bromo-androstan-3,17-dione
(A saturated form of the aromatase inhibitor 6-bromoandrostenedione)

6-bromo-androsta-1,4-diene-3,17-dione
(6-bromoandrostenedione with additional C1-2 unsaturation)

4-chloro-17α-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-3,17β-diol
(‘Halodrol’, an Oral Turinabol precursor)

4-chloro-17α-methyl-androst-4-ene-3β,17β-diol
(‘P-Mag’ or ‘Promagnon 25′, a methyl clostebol precursor)

4-chloro-17α-methyl-17β-hydroxy-androst-4-en-3-one
(17a-methyl clostebol)

4-chloro-17α-methyl-17β-hydroxy-androst-4-ene-3,11-dione
(‘Oxyguno’)

4-chloro-17α-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-3,17β-diol
(‘Halodrol’ again, for some reason)

2α,17α-dimethyl-17β-hydroxy-5α-androstan-3-one
(Methasterone, or ‘Superdrol’. Note that this already appears on the CSA)

2α,17α-dimethyl-17β-hydroxy-5β-androstan-3-one
(An incorrect nomenclature occasionally listed on Superdrol bottles, see here)

2α,3α-epithio-17α-methyl-5α-androstan-17β-ol
(‘Epistane’ or ‘Havoc’)

[3,2-c]-furazan-5α-androstan-17β-ol
(‘Furuza’, a non-methylated analogue of Furazabol)

3β-hydroxy-estra-4,9,11-trien-17-one
(Theoretically a precursor to trenbolone; never released and probably never synthesized)

17α-methyl-androst-2-ene-3,17β-diol
(An analogue of desoxymethyltestosterone/madol/phera; never released and probably never synthesized)

17α-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-3,17β-diol
(M1,4ADD, a precursor to methandrostenolone/Dianabol)

Estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione
(‘Trendione’, a trenbolone precursor)

18a-Homo-3-hydroxy-estra-2,5(10)-dien-17-one
(M-LMG without the methoxy group, a precursor to 18-methyl-19-nortestosterone/13-ethylnortestosterone)

6α-Methyl-androst-4-ene-3,17-dione
(An aromatase inhibitor found in ProLine’s ‘Methyl-1 Pro’)

17α-Methyl-androstan-3-hydroxyimine-17β-ol
(‘The One’/’D-Plex’)

17α-Methyl-5α-androstan-17β-ol
(Methylandrostanol; ‘Protobol’)

17β-Hydroxy-androstano[2,3-d]isoxazole
(Androisoxazole)

17β-Hydroxy-androstano[3,2-c]isoxazole
(An isomer of androisoxazole)

4-Hydroxy-androst-4-ene-3,17-dione
(The aromatase inhibitor Formestane)

[3,2-c]pyrazole-5α-androstan-17β-ol
(Prostanozol, non-17a-methylated analogue of Stanozolol/Winstrol. Note 1: in the bill they have listed both this compound and formestane in the same subclause (lxxii), as if they were one item. Note 2: This compound already appears on the CSA))

[3,2-c]pyrazole-androst-4-en-17β-ol
(A 4,5 unsaturated analogue of the preceding compound)

[3,2-c]pyrazole-5α-androstan-17β-ol
(Prostanozol again)

 

[henryv]

Can you post a copy of the list please

Explicitly named in the bill are (the chemical names for):

Halodrol/h-drol clones
P-Mag/promagnon clones
Methyl clostebol (e.g. Mechabol)
Oxyguno
Epistane, Havoc, or any epistane clones
Furaza, or any furuza clones
M1,4ADD
Trendione
The One/D-Plex, or any clone
Protobol/Protoplex, or any clone
AI Cynostane*
Formestane

*Though Cynostane listed the ingredient as a "2-cyano" compound, testing identified androisoxazole as the active ingredient.

 

[henryv]

The 25 compounds now illegal (and the brief descriptions or common names) are:

5α-Androstan-3,6,17-trione
(A saturated/’5a-reduced’ form of 6-oxo)

6-bromo-androstan-3,17-dione
(A saturated form of the aromatase inhibitor 6-bromoandrostenedione)

6-bromo-androsta-1,4-diene-3,17-dione
(6-bromoandrostenedione with additional C1-2 unsaturation)

4-chloro-17α-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-3,17β-diol
(‘Halodrol’, an Oral Turinabol precursor)

4-chloro-17α-methyl-androst-4-ene-3β,17β-diol
(‘P-Mag’ or ‘Promagnon 25′, a methyl clostebol precursor)

4-chloro-17α-methyl-17β-hydroxy-androst-4-en-3-one
(17a-methyl clostebol)

4-chloro-17α-methyl-17β-hydroxy-androst-4-ene-3,11-dione
(‘Oxyguno’)

4-chloro-17α-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-3,17β-diol
(‘Halodrol’ again, for some reason)

2α,17α-dimethyl-17β-hydroxy-5α-androstan-3-one
(Methasterone, or ‘Superdrol’. Note that this already appears on the CSA)

2α,17α-dimethyl-17β-hydroxy-5β-androstan-3-one
(An incorrect nomenclature occasionally listed on Superdrol bottles, see here)

2α,3α-epithio-17α-methyl-5α-androstan-17β-ol
(‘Epistane’ or ‘Havoc’)

[3,2-c]-furazan-5α-androstan-17β-ol
(‘Furuza’, a non-methylated analogue of Furazabol)

3β-hydroxy-estra-4,9,11-trien-17-one
(Theoretically a precursor to trenbolone; never released and probably never synthesized)

17α-methyl-androst-2-ene-3,17β-diol
(An analogue of desoxymethyltestosterone/madol/phera; never released and probably never synthesized)

17α-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-3,17β-diol
(M1,4ADD, a precursor to methandrostenolone/Dianabol)

Estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione
(‘Trendione’, a trenbolone precursor)

18a-Homo-3-hydroxy-estra-2,5(10)-dien-17-one
(M-LMG without the methoxy group, a precursor to 18-methyl-19-nortestosterone/13-ethylnortestosterone)

6α-Methyl-androst-4-ene-3,17-dione
(An aromatase inhibitor found in ProLine’s ‘Methyl-1 Pro’)

17α-Methyl-androstan-3-hydroxyimine-17β-ol
(‘The One’/’D-Plex’)

17α-Methyl-5α-androstan-17β-ol
(Methylandrostanol; ‘Protobol’)

17β-Hydroxy-androstano[2,3-d]isoxazole
(Androisoxazole)

17β-Hydroxy-androstano[3,2-c]isoxazole
(An isomer of androisoxazole)

4-Hydroxy-androst-4-ene-3,17-dione
(The aromatase inhibitor Formestane)

[3,2-c]pyrazole-5α-androstan-17β-ol
(Prostanozol, non-17a-methylated analogue of Stanozolol/Winstrol. Note 1: in the bill they have listed both this compound and formestane in the same subclause (lxxii), as if they were one item. Note 2: This compound already appears on the CSA))

[3,2-c]pyrazole-androst-4-en-17β-ol
(A 4,5 unsaturated analogue of the preceding compound)

[3,2-c]pyrazole-5α-androstan-17β-ol
(Prostanozol again)

If you copy and paste me, please cite and link me.

 

[heavyiron]

If you copy and paste me, please cite and link me.

LOL, I think we have bigger issues to deal with.....but of course.

 

[RickyBlobby]

SO, for instance- Trestolone/ trestobol- not explicitly listed here. Can they still legally sell that for now?

 

[heavyiron]

SO, for instance- Trestolone/ trestobol- not explicitly listed here. Can they still legally sell that for now?

Sort of. The language in the bill is broad and gives significant power to the attorney general. If he adds compounds there is a 30 day grace period for those however its risky. They may raid or seize these products first because they can say they are anabolic steroids.

 

[Loneyboy]

So trest, DMZ, and msten are still technically legal. We're all good then

 

[henryv]

So trest, DMZ, and msten are still technically legal. We're all good then

"Not specifically listed" is not the same as "technically legal".

 

[BigWiggs92]

So I took epi today. I used an illegal steroid. No grace period, dammit....

 

[RickyBlobby]

So I took epi today. I used an illegal steroid. No grace period, dammit....

I'm going to need your name and address

 

[Loneyboy]

"Not specifically listed" is not the same as "technically legal".

Prohormones were never specifically listed as anabolics, were they or were they not technically legal?

 

[venicebeach]

i legit just bought a bunch right now from strong supplement shop. i live in canada, will i still get me stuff you think?

 

[drinkyboy]

i legit just bought a bunch right now from strong supplement shop. i live in canada, will i still get me stuff you think?

I don't know but I do know that I'm ordering more tonight

 

[kisaj]

Does everyone feel safer now? I know I do now that all these people that were minding their own business and not harming others are no longer going to be a problem.

 

[heavyiron]

Most shops are still selling. LOL

 

[BigWiggs92]

As they should. Sell, sell, sell.

 

[Mumbles01]

I wonder what this means for my orders, I bought from nutra & got a email saying that the items were on back order & haven't even been shipped yet. Since it was paid for days before the ban technically it's not being 'sold'illigally right?

 

[Skigazzi]

I wonder what this means for my orders, I bought from nutra & got a email saying that the items were on back order & haven't even been shipped yet. Since it was paid for days before the ban technically it's not being 'sold'illigally right?

Nutra took mostly all OLs pH line down, I doubt they ship it to be honest. The stores who basically exist on pH sales probably will (strong, *******, etc)

 

[Kickstart7]

Are they gonna stop selling cycle assist and Tudca?

 

[heavyiron]

Are they gonna stop selling cycle assist and Tudca?

LOL

 

[Kickstart7]

LOL

sorry bro, just wondering.

 

[Kickstart7]

No but it is 60% of what it normally is and will continue to be. So I made out nice. Duh! Ph coming out my ****ing ears! Lol..

just making sure bc I just bought a **** ton of Msten!!!

 

[dbrock504]

just making sure bc I just bought a **** ton of Msten!!!

Ya good question cuz I just got a couple years worth as well. But I doubt they stop selling that.

 

[Alpha314]

I scooped up a couple a B Labs Super Trenbolone and plan on running it around this time in 2015 but first will be soaking up 1 or 2 cycles of DMZ . ..

 

[Abe Lincoln]

Doubt too many companies would stop making their cycle support. Personally I will run cel cycle assist with all of my cycles, even my pinning ones in the future

 

[dbrock504]

Think proactive! I'm good for years lol, just saying. Kinda nice to not have to worry about it.

Ya no kidding. I got what I know. Wanted to get a little of everything but decided on 8 bottles of halo 4 bottles of epi 2 formabolic and 2 super dmz. Should be ok for a little while haha. Should give me enough time to research and understand pinning

 

[Mumbles01]

Just got a reply email from nutras CS. Said they haven't gotten their shipment of halo-100 from OL yet, it was rushed due to the ban.
TUESDAY all halo orders will be shipped.

 

[jgntyce]

Ya no kidding. I got what I know. Wanted to get a little of everything but decided on 8 bottles of halo 4 bottles of epi 2 formabolic and 2 super dmz. Should be ok for a little while haha. Should give me enough time to research and understand pinning

right on! I am good for the next 5 years at least!

 

[dbrock504]

Just got a reply email from nutras CS. Said they haven't gotten their shipment of halo-100 from OL yet, it was rushed due to the ban. TUESDAY all halo orders will be shipped.

Hope it's that way for strongsupplement as well. Ordered 4 bottles.

 

[JPSwole]

Some one took all the liquid M-sten and Dimethabold from AAR

 

[dbrock504]

I'm CEL cycle assist is old school. Times have changed damage control blows that **** the water!

Cycle assist is proven time and time again though. I ran out of halo-v so I took lgi halo25 at the end of my last cycle and even bumped to 100mg and felt NOTHING. Feel like I got bunk stuff. I don't know if I trust LGI but I know a lot of guys on here do.

 

[Volvo140G]

I'm
CEL cycle assist is old school. Times have changed damage control blows that **** the water!

Damage Control has nothing on cycle assist but lower doses and a nearly meaningless dose of tudca. To each their own however....

 

[jgntyce]

Ar1macare Pro

 

[SquatsAndOats]

Nutra took mostly all OLs pH line down, I doubt they ship it to be honest. The stores who basically exist on pH sales probably will (strong, *******, etc)

Nutriverse better ship my stuff. I ordered today before it was signed and it was dmz and msten. Not on the list if I remember correctly, the other stuff I got from other sites already gave me a shipping confirmation

 

[SquatsAndOats]

Some one took all the liquid M-sten and Dimethabold from AAR <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=111668"/>

I saw that too. I was about to order last night and I said **** it I'll wait till tmo morning to see if the coupons increase. Too bad I missed out. Only got like 30% off OL msten as dmz.

 

[jgntyce]

I dont like an AI on cycle unless I really need it! Makes no sense, if your running anything that doesn't aromatize. I like options and And Ar1macare Pro doesn't give that option.

and those options are?????

 

[jgntyce]

Damage control man! Tudca, SAMe, Coq10, Nac. And it won't dry your joints out. Oh and LGI is legit as ****!

yea Max from Nutri-verse recommended either Ar1macare Pro or LGI Damage Control.

 

[Pipes]

So with the ban and no grace, are all sales stopping now? Or will we see 75% off so companies can dump stock and recoup some of their money instead of dumping the product?

 

[SquatsAndOats]

So with the ban and no grace, are all sales stopping now? Or will we see 75% off so companies can dump stock and recoup some of their money instead of dumping the product?

I saw 85% somewhere but I forget where. I had already gotten my stuff so I deleted the email.

 

[Alpha314]

one site had 45% off however when i took a look the PH prices were really inflated compared to other sites, i ended up finding my Super Trenabol for a far cheaper price at Strong Supplement Shop and after applying the discount on offer all i had to pay was $33.71 not too bad for a product that some sites had marked up well over the $60 mark :laugh:

 

[M.I.D]

Nutriverse better ship my stuff. I ordered today before it was signed and it was dmz and msten. Not on the list if I remember correctly, the other stuff I got from other sites already gave me a shipping confirmation

I have just emailed them asking, I ordered some stuff on the 15th but apparently they weren't getting the Transform in until yesterday so it hasn't been shipped yet.

Once I find out I will let you know

 

[Pipes]

I called one of our sites and was able to negotiate a pretty sweet deal on some stuff.

 

[M.I.D]

I saw 85% somewhere but I forget where. I had already gotten my stuff so I deleted the email.

85% was off 1 thing at nutriverse

 

[Abe Lincoln]

I'm CEL cycle assist is old school. Times have changed damage control blows that **** the water!

Cel cycle assist + TUDCA is great for on cycle care. Damage control is underdosed fyi, it would be more cost effective to go my route I have found. And yes I have used damage control in the past.