Picking Between Epi solo or Stack help!

[Tabascoonall]

Hey guys, beginning of December i am going to be running my first PH cycle, i was set in stone on the perfect ep15tane cycle by Olympus labs, i almost pulled the trigger on it but then i heard about eli smash by blackstone, it has 6 chloro in it and also epistle but only 10mg. SOOOOO what would you guys pick I'm torn. I hear epi smash you don't need nova or anything like that which is hard to comprehend.

Thanks,
J

 

[Abe Lincoln]

Just no blackstone.. Epistane and serm. Cel cycle assist + tudca.

 

[mw1]

Stick with OL's Epi and run Cycle Assist through out cycle. What did you have planned for PCT?

 

[Tabascoonall]

Cycle set up:
OL ep15tane 30/30/45/45/45/45
OL ar1macare 4/4/4/4/4/4 (have 2 bottles)
Taurine or glucosamine (Dosage? still up in the air)
And up in the are about formeron

PCT:
Sup3r PCT: 4/4/3/3/2/1
Nolva 20/20/10/10
DAA 3/3/3/3

I think I'm going to stick with Olympus unless you guys have a better company or product to go with.

 

[Tabascoonall]

Mainly looking for strenght and some size, right now I'm reverse dieting and I'm looking to keep 80% of the gains i make. So if that means switching compounds i will but i want your input .

 

[Abe Lincoln]

Form shouldn't be needed, epistane is great for strength gains and size will be diet dependant

 

[Tabascoonall]

well my diet is in check i just hit 604 days straight logging and weighting my food hahha. but any tips on keeping the gains from Epistane after i finish? and does that cycle look solid

and also Ep15tane or LGI epi-10?

Thanks for your time

 

[Abe Lincoln]

To maintain just need to make sure you eat enough to maintain your weight and keep on progressing in the gym. Could add in some sns reduce xt as cortisol will be all over during pct and reduce xt will keep it under control. Cycle looks good.

 

[Tabascoonall]

Ok solid thank you very much, last question then ill be logging my results. so if i follow that cycle to the T i won't be subjected to gyno? that is the nay reason i haven't started the cycle yet I'm worried about gyno

 

[Abe Lincoln]

There is the possibility of rebound gyno later on, so having an AI on hand could be useful, but you shouldn't get it on cycle

 

[Tabascoonall]

so what would you add to my cycle as a AI? I'm guessing PES erase pro

 

[mw1]

so what would you add to my cycle as a AI? I'm guessing PES erase pro

I would go with Eradicate E or if you can wait till Black Friday the new Inhibit E

 

[Tabascoonall]

i can wait hah ok thank you ! when would you dose that in?

 

[yates84]

Go Olympus labs! Ran their epi and loved it! I am a true believer in Olympus labs products

 

[RickyBlobby]

X2 for Olympus labs. Dosing is right on all their products.
I ran the epi for 6 weeks and the trest for 11, the transformation was unbelievable!!
Glucosamine and chondroitin supplement highly recommended with the epistane.

 

[Tabascoonall]

I was really thinking of stacking it with something but for my first run i just want to run it solo.

 

[RickyBlobby]

If you are prone to hairloss, I HIGHLY recommend starting 5% minoxidil at least a couple weeks before your cycle and running it a month after. My hair thinned out like crazy- EPI converts to DHT.

 

[Tabascoonall]

Did you run it through your cycle? I love my hair hah

 

[RickyBlobby]

No I didn't think to use it till it was too late. How old are you? Is your hairline receeding at all? Thinning on the top of your head at all?

 

[Tabascoonall]

I'm 21 but I have really thick hair and my fathers head is trimming down so I want to make sure

 

[RickyBlobby]

Is your hairline receeding at all?

 

[RickyBlobby]

And they say it's your moms dad who you get your hair from

 

[Tabascoonall]

No hair line is doing great. I just have very thick hair

 

[Abe Lincoln]

Isn't thick hair good? Ha

 

[RickyBlobby]

I wouldn't worry about hairloss then at this point.

 

[Tabascoonall]

Yeah I love it hah I don't want it to get thinned. I mean mop thick hahah I'm not going to worry about it

 

[Tabascoonall]

SOOO putting it all together i got this as my cycle

Cycle set up:
OL ep15tane 30/30/45/45/45/45
OL ar1macare 4/4/4/4/4/4 (have 2 bottles)
Taurine and glucosamine

PCT:
Nolva: weeks 1-4 @ 20/20/10/10
DAA: weeks 1-4 @ 3/3/3/3
Super PCT: weeks 1-6 @ 4/4/3/3/2/1
Reduce XT: Start Three weeks in to PCT

So this is what i got out of all the help, worth the time and research and also so thankful for the help, FINAL INPUT

 

[RickyBlobby]

Enjoy. If this is your first cycle you're going to be thrilled with the results.

 

[Tabascoonall]

Will keep you updated! It is my first cycle and can't wait to see what the all the talk is about and get involved in PHs

 

[Abe Lincoln]

You will be logging this here?

 

[Tabascoonall]

Of course! I am currently logging PES EP, the epi log should start beginning of December! Very detailed with macros, workout log, and pictures

 

[Grayson]

If you haven't already pulled the trigger yet on OL, take a look at Menace Nutrition's ERipper. 15mg of Epistane per cap alongside 3 other fat burning ingredients.

Or check out our logging opportunity here: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259915

 

[Tabascoonall]

Hey guys where are you buying Nolva from, I'm on google and there are a lot of places just don't know which to trust. any ideas? and if I'm doing 20/20/10/10 how many should i buy? might be a good idea to buy extra

 

[mgkoret]

Hey guys where are you buying Nolva from, I'm on google and there are a lot of places just don't know which to trust. any ideas? and if I'm doing 20/20/10/10 how many should i buy? might be a good idea to buy extra

Can't source on the threads. Look at the supplement company forums and choose from a sponsored source. Or PM me and i'd be happy to share some information

 

[fame126]

Can't source on the threads. Look at the supplement company forums and choose from a sponsored source. Or PM me and i'd be happy to share some information

epiash is way too expensive and not worth it IMO

 

[mgkoret]

epiash is way too expensive and not worth it IMO

Want to elaborate on that?

 

[fame126]

Want to elaborate on that?

only 60 pills at 10 mg 59.99 and need 2 bottles to have a good run which means ur lookin at over 100.00 for an epi cycle which is ridiculous

 

[mgkoret]

only 60 pills at 10 mg 59.99 and need 2 bottles to have a good run which means ur lookin at over 100.00 for an epi cycle which is ridiculous

EPI Smash, not epiash. Got it. Yeah I totally agree. stick with OL.
Was just lost when you quoted my post and it had nothing to do with what you were saying.

 

[McCrew530]

You can look into the iron flex line up our epi clown brawn had been out a while its cost efficient plus orbit has some killer pricing on it with an additional 10% off using the code SOCIAL hit me up if you have any questions brother

 

[yates84]

Blackstone is all over priced and over hyped imo

 

[fame126]

EPI Smash, not epiash. Got it. Yeah I totally agree. stick with OL. Was just lost when you quoted my post and it had nothing to do with what you were saying.

oh ya ha i just saw that. i didnt mean to quote ur response that was weird