Back to the PH game!

[JD45]

It's been many years since I've used PH's so long in fact, that I think the last one I used might have been 4-AD??

Nevertheless, I would like to run a cycle again, but before starting, want to see if I can solicit some advice from people more knowledgeable than me.

Stats:

38 years old
5'9"
180lbs
BF% - unknown

I'm currently watching my caloric intake to slim down a little bit. I could stand to use a couple BF percentage points.

I'm interested in running Tren, but not sure which one. I see there is Xtreme and Attack.

My goal is to lose a little BF while putting on some lean/dry mass. I'll plan on running PCT to help keep any gains if need be.

Just looking for advice (like everyone else) as to which Tren I should run or if there is something better that I'm not considering.

I know there are tons of threads like this and I thank you in advance for your time and input!

 

[threeFs]

Age 38, looking into orals? Why not oils? You're a grown man

I'm running tren acetate right now, no pills here. Let me know if I can help

 

[Abe Lincoln]

If you are going to run tren be sure to get something for prolactin, like sns inhibit p, caber, or prami..

 

[hickdog89]

Check out,Super trenabol by black stonelabs, it actually converts to real trenbolone

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Check out,Super trenabol by black stonelabs, it actually converts to real trenbolone

Overpriced.

Your best bet for "tren" product would be either TR3N or DermaTREN by Olympus Labs. It's also trendione but gives much more bang for your buck.

If it was me, I'd run EP15TANE or TR1UMPH instead of trendione though.

 

[JD45]

Age 38, looking into orals? Why not oils? You're a grown man

I'm running tren acetate right now, no pills here. Let me know if I can help

You're right, I could. I've never injected myself before and always took orals. I assume there is a benefit to using oils over orals, in that they don't get broken down by the liver as much? Appreciate the offer to help!

 

[JD45]

If you are going to run tren be sure to get something for prolactin, like inhibit p, caber, or prami..

Will do, thanks!

 

[JD45]

Overpriced.

Your best bet for "tren" product would be either TR3N or DermaTREN by Olympus Labs. It's also trendione but gives much more bang for your buck.

If it was me, I'd run EP15TANE or TR1UMPH instead of trendione though.

DermaTREN looks interesting, as does EP15TANE and TR3N. Out of those three, did you have a preference?

Looks like much hasn't changed in the last few years. Liver protection while on cycle, PCT

 

[g0hardorgohom]

DermaTREN looks interesting, as does EP15TANE and TR3N. Out of those three, did you have a preference?

Looks like much hasn't changed in the last few years. Liver protection while on cycle, PCT

DermaTREN and TR3N are same compounds, DermaTREN is just a transdermal version.

I'd prefer EP15TANE. Run it at 30/45/45/45/45/45 and you'll love it.

 

[Cogy]

Do you prefer Ep1stane over Tr1umph ?
And why?

 

[barrymcokiner]

OP- Triumph and Stano would be ideal for you. I had a long hiatus from PH's, came back and jumped into my Go-To (Hdrol)- which gives me great results, don't get me wrong. But- It does not compare to Triumph, especially for cutting and lean mass.

 

[grinnell27]

I've always ran oils since the start (only done 3 cycles to be fair) so I would always suggest that over PH's

I never liked the idea if having that much strain on the liver... I know all steroids affect the liver jus PH's are harsher.

Would any guys who run oils consider using PH's again/ever?

Sorry if it hijacks the thread a little.

 

[Abe Lincoln]

I hear guys using SD on cycle all the time as a kick started ^

 

[grinnell27]

I hear guys using SD on cycle all the time as a kick started ^

That's interesting to know. I've inly used dbol as a kick start... Didn't like it though. Dehydrated me to a stupid level... Let's just say I didn't think you could pee out iron brew

 

[Abe Lincoln]

Yeah I haven't run oils, but I have heard guys still run DS/Phs while on them

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Do you prefer Ep1stane over Tr1umph ?
And why?

Yes I do but I respond better to Epi than most people. General concensus is that TR1UMPH is better for cutting/recomping/nutrient partitioning and it also has less sides. TR1UMPH at 40/60/60/60/60/60 would treat you well.

 

[grinnell27]

Yeah I haven't run oils, but I have heard guys still run DS/Phs while on them

It would be easier to pop a pill or 2 instead of pinning but it's not too bad.

 

[threeFs]

I've always ran oils since the start (only done 3 cycles to be fair) so I would always suggest that over PH's

I never liked the idea if having that much strain on the liver... I know all steroids affect the liver jus PH's are harsher.

Would any guys who run oils consider using PH's again/ever?

Sorry if it hijacks the thread a little.

No, not me ever again. Oil is best for me

 

[g0hardorgohom]

I've ran a lot of oils but I'm still using PH's/designer steroids. They are orals just like compounds like dianabol, anavar and anadrol.

 

[grinnell27]

I've ran a lot of oils but I'm still using PH's/designer steroids. They are orals just like compounds like dianabol, anavar and anadrol.

Maybe i'll try one with my next cycle? No idea whats even out there... Guess thats a question for another time.

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Maybe i'll try one with my next cycle? No idea whats even out there... Guess thats a question for another time.

DYMETHAZI9E for kickstart and THE 1 in the tail end of your cycle?

 

[abformulations]

DYMETHAZI9E for kickstart and THE 1 in the tail end of your cycle?

Good idea.

 

[JD45]

OP- Triumph and Stano would be ideal for you. I had a long hiatus from PH's, came back and jumped into my Go-To (Hdrol)- which gives me great results, don't get me wrong. But- It does not compare to Triumph, especially for cutting and lean mass.

Thank you, I'll look in to these as well.

 

[JD45]

So it looks like EP15TANE or Triumph would suit me best. Thanks g0hardorgohom for the dosing.

Any recommendations for PCT? I'm sure things have changed since I was taking Nolva. Or perhaps anything else I'm not considering?

Thanks again for the patience, and advice!

 

[Abe Lincoln]

Basic pct..
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Sns DAA 3G daily

 

[abformulations]

So it looks like EP15TANE or Triumph would suit me best. Thanks g0hardorgohom for the dosing. Any recommendations for PCT? I'm sure things have changed since I was taking Nolva. Or perhaps anything else I'm not considering? Thanks again for the patience, and advice!

Flip a coin but right now we have tr1umph for 34.99 at orbit from 49.99 might wanna jump on that. As far as pct my go to SERM is torem.

My personal fav pct is-
Viron
Abliderate ammo
Formeron or transform
Torem

Here's the link http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/olympus-labs-tr1umph.html

 

[barrymcokiner]

^ Fawk that's a good deal- I'm probably going to on that. I have a source that still has Iron Legion Triumph, which I know is fawking awesome, but that is a good deal. So halfhuman, have you personally taken your own Triumph from OL?

 

[abformulations]

^ Fawk that's a good deal- I'm probably going to on that. I have a source that still has Iron Legion Triumph, which I know is fawking awesome, but that is a good deal. So halfhuman, have you personally taken your own Triumph from OL?

Sure is. Actually all of OL at orbit is 25% off which is amazing. Use code OLYMPUS25

Iron legion is legit too.

I have not personally used tr1umph as its new from OL but I have not used that compound neither. But it's a great compound to cut on. Not much of a see lots of gain type compound. I grabbed me up a bottle for my next run along side tr3st and probably dermafury for a nice cut.

 

[barrymcokiner]

Yes, Triumph is great for a cut- I ran 1000mg of Stano with it for 8 weeks, (5 weeks of tri) and it shred me like no other. Put on tons of mass while staying lean(9 pounds lean mass)- diet was sorta crappy too and it shred fat like crazy. Vascularity was just insane, everyone knew I was on something. I saw great gains on Triumph to tell u the truth.

 

[abformulations]

Yes, Triumph is great for a cut- I ran 1000mg of Stano with it for 8 weeks, (5 weeks of tri) and it shred me like no other. Put on tons of mass while staying lean(9 pounds lean mass)- diet was sorta crappy too and it shred fat like crazy. Vascularity was just insane, everyone knew I was on something. I saw great gains on Triumph to tell u the truth.

Amazing. Sounds like that was a perfect cycle. Good sh!t.

Looking forward to my run in the spring.