which causes more hairloss epi or ultradrol

[FitnessLuke]

I know you have to be prone to mpb. Just overall im wondering. I ran epi and didnt notice any extra shedding, so Im wondering if that means ultradrol is safe.

 

[Abe Lincoln]

Both can be heavy on the hair line. On paper I'd say msten would be worst, but I'd give it a try as everyone is different. A test base would make it another like trest, stano, or bps dermacrine

 

[Volvo140G]

From what I gather hair loss isn't terrible on msten, but have heard horror stories from folks using epi.

 

[FitnessLuke]

Okay well maybe msten will be fine for me. Bc I did 5-alpha test(supposed to convert to dht) stacked with epi and didnt notice any increased hair shedding.
I went up to 50 mg on epi too

 

[FitnessLuke]

Awesome that sounds like the way to go then, thanks

 

[Abe Lincoln]

Msten has a low androgenic rating Anecdotally, its low on hair loss

Where did you get that from? It has a higher than DMZ

 

[Volvo140G]

660/170 msten
210/95 dmz

You're correct there. My researching seems to suggest its easier on the hairline than many other compounds. I've never used either but have been eyeballing a mild msten run lately. Got any experience w/ it?

 

[Abe Lincoln]

660/170 msten 210/95 dmz You're correct there. My researching seems to suggest its easier on the hairline than many other compounds. I've never used either but have been eyeballing a mild msten run lately. Got any experience w/ it?

Yeah was confused on that part. Well everyone is different some people are just prone to hairloss and some can take the harshest **** and have flowing locks of hair.. Personally no, but I did help a friend in my city setup his cycle. He ran 20mg for 4 weeks and put on a solid 20lbs, not sure on what amount of it was fat/water/etc but he did look better IMO without too much fat gain

 

[Volvo140G]

Methyldiazirinol seems like it'd be easy on the hairline OP, check out Triumphalis or Tr1umph

 

[FitnessLuke]

Methyldiazirinol seems like it'd be easy on the hairline OP, check out Triumphalis or Tr1umph

Would it give good gains ran with a low dose test cycle?

 

[Volvo140G]

Would it give good gains ran with a low dose test cycle?

Diet/training in check, sure

 

[FitnessLuke]

Well I dont wanna get something that gives decent gains when there is a well known compound thats cheaper and gives badass gains

 

[FitnessLuke]

660/170 msten
210/95 dmz

You're correct there. My researching seems to suggest its easier on the hairline than many other compounds. I've never used either but have been eyeballing a mild msten run lately. Got any experience w/ it?

Whait so based on these stats the msten is a lot more anabolic than it is androgenic when compared to dmz? Just wanna make sure im seeing that correctly