Test-E cycle ( Need an example/layout)

[jeremyx1307]

Test-E cycle ( Need an example/layout) Boods+Pics !

Going to run test E/500mg a week for 12 weeks, I have HCG , Clomid & Aromasin.

Need a layout for when to use all of the above and in what dosage. I weigh 180 (6'0") Thanks in advance .

 

[Beelzebub]

Test enan 250mg on Mon/Thurs
HCG 250iu Mon/Thurs

Save the aromasin unless you need it, i.e. estrogen related side effects. Clomid for post cycle - wait about 2 weeks after your last test shot then introduce it at 50mg for 2 weeks, then 25mg for 2 weeks. I doubt you'll even need it but it definitely won't hurt.

 

[MuscleJ]

Yup 500mg a week standard dose, and before you start your cycle look into how to use the pct so if you have a issue you know what to do.

 

[audix2359]

You REALLY should do bloodwork before your cycle and after your cycle. During (about 5 weeks in) would also be helpful as I'm guessing this is your first cycle. You want the before bloodwork to get a baseline for yourself, especially your Test levels. Knowing this is the only way to know how well you will have recovered after PCT. You want to do bloodwork after PCT - a week or a month or two months; I don't think it matters too much but you want to make sure you have recovered and to what extent.

Bloodwork on cycle is very helpful to assess how your body is handling the increased testosterone. Based on the results, you can add an AI if your estrogen is high. You will also be able to tell if what you have is legit. At 500mg per week, your total Test should be 3,000 or higher.

 

[Blergs]

Going to run test E/500mg a week for 12 weeks, I have HCG , Clomid & Aromasin.

Need a layout for when to use all of the above and in what dosage. I weigh 180 (6'0") Thanks in advance .

wk1-14 500mg ew teste
wk1-15 AI ( i rec dex at 0.25-0.5mg eod) but masin at 25mg eod might be fine (most males dose to too low)
wk16-20 4wk PCT: 50mg clomid ed / 20mg nolva ed
wk10- 16 (up to start of pct, but not into it) HCG 500iu 2x a week

 

[Blergs]

You REALLY should do bloodwork before your cycle and after your cycle. During (about 5 weeks in) would also be helpful as I'm guessing this is your first cycle. You want the before bloodwork to get a baseline for yourself, especially your Test levels. Knowing this is the only way to know how well you will have recovered after PCT. You want to do bloodwork after PCT - a week or a month or two months; I don't think it matters too much but you want to make sure you have recovered and to what extent.

Bloodwork on cycle is very helpful to assess how your body is handling the increased testosterone. Based on the results, you can add an AI if your estrogen is high. You will also be able to tell if what you have is legit. At 500mg per week, your total Test should be 3,000 or higher.

get blood work.

 

[SweetLou321]

wk1-14 500mg ew teste
wk1-15 AI ( i rec dex at 0.25-0.5mg eod) but masin at 25mg eod might be fine (most males dose to too low)
wk16-20 4wk PCT: 50mg clomid ed / 20mg nolva ed
wk10- 16 (up to start of pct, but not into it) HCG 500iu 2x a week

What do you mean most guys dose asin it to low? Just curious.

 

[jeremyx1307]

wk1-14 500mg ew teste
wk1-15 AI ( i rec dex at 0.25-0.5mg eod) but masin at 25mg eod might be fine (most males dose to too low)
wk16-20 4wk PCT: 50mg clomid ed / 20mg nolva ed
wk10- 16 (up to start of pct, but not into it) HCG 500iu 2x a week

Why such a long cycle and why not hcg during?

 

[bigguyn10ec]

From what I understand from lot other boards hcg should only be used for at most 4 weeks. And to use that pct.

Am I wrong?

 

[jeremyx1307]

Bloodwork+Before Picture

TT (270-1070) 907
FT (48.2-169.6) 155
E2 (0.0-39.8) 29.3
LH (1.5-9.3) 8.1
SHBG (17.3-65.8) 39.6

Stats: 180lb 6'0", %8 - %9 bf
Age : 23

Going to post bloods+After once I decide on a cycle.

 

[jeremyx1307]

Anyone for what should I throw in along with the Test for that finishing touch?BTW my leg day consists of 4 sets of chest and bi's Hench my relatively low weight. I'm planning on catching up with this cycle.

 

[Jiigzz]

From what I understand from lot other boards hcg should only be used for at most 4 weeks. And to use that pct.

Am I wrong?

No thats very bad advice.

Hcg should never be used in PCT as it mimics (and therefore downregulates) LH

 

[Distilled Water]

No thats very bad advice. Hcg should never be used in PCT as it mimics (and therefore downregulates) LH

This^^^^

On cycle and while the ester is clearing and maybe, MAYBE the first week or so of PCT but nothing more. False sense of security in my opinion.

Hcg is like the batter to your nuts and Clomid is the alternator. Hcg is what starts it back up but only temporary. Clomid gets the natural production back along side other ancillaries.

 

[audix2359]

Anyone for what should I throw in along with the Test for that finishing touch?BTW my leg day consists of 4 sets of chest and bi's Hench my relatively low weight. I'm planning on catching up with this cycle.

First great job doing blood work. So many guys skip this but you'll be glad you got it done. I assume you mean an oral to finish with. There are many options and it kind of depends on your goals. I see a lot of people using Var or Winnie to finish with as those tighten you up, but I've also seen guys finish with Dbol for a last kick of size and strength. You could go with an OTC like Hdrol, Epistane, etc.

 

[jeremyx1307]

First great job doing blood work. So many guys skip this but you'll be glad you got it done. I assume you mean an oral to finish with. There are many options and it kind of depends on your goals. I see a lot of people using Var or Winnie to finish with as those tighten you up, but I've also seen guys finish with Dbol for a last kick of size and strength. You could go with an OTC like Hdrol, Epistane, etc.

Im afraid of oral dbol to be honest.. My liver is already taking massive abuse (I party hard) Winnie or var sound good , which one of those is milder and also which one would raise dht less because I think I have too much of that as it is for my age due to high test and finally could anyone type me up a cycle with test e , Winnie or var and hcg (while on cycle)?

I train like a beast and expect at least 20lb for this cycle (12 weeks) I eat 5 times a day and every meal Always has either beef/chicken or fish I usually gain almost 1 pound a week being completely natural (Creatine and a multi V is the only thing I take along with protein isolates during the anabolic window only)

 

[jbryand101b]

Wtf

 

[jeremyx1307]

Wtf


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Is it my expectations or being afraid of dbol that caused the facepalm? Don't hate, elaborate xD

 

[Mr_Irrelevant]

Is it my expectations or being afraid of dbol that caused the facepalm? Don't hate, elaborate xD

I'm going to go ahead and say the face palm is definitely for something else in that post...

 

[smshannon001]

I'm
Guessing the face palm
Is for you saying how much you party and are going to take steroids.

If you are serious about training you would keep your hard partying to a minimum with or without gear.

But especially if you are on gear, do not drink. It depends on your level of self control. If you can have 1 beer at the party to be sociable and limit yourself to that, then sure go ahead.
But most people don't have that much self control and would be better off staying away from those situations.

If you're worried about peer pressure you should look at it this way: you are doing something to change your body and get bigger and stronger, if your friends cannot support you for that 12 weeks without pressuring you to drink then I guess you got something to think about.

 

[jeremyx1307]

I'm
Guessing the face palm
Is for you saying how much you party and are going to take steroids.

If you are serious about training you would keep your hard partying to a minimum with or without gear.

But especially if you are on gear, do not drink. It depends on your level of self control. If you can have 1 beer at the party to be sociable and limit yourself to that, then sure go ahead.
But most people don't have that much self control and would be better off staying away from those situations.

If you're worried about peer pressure you should look at it this way: you are doing something to change your body and get bigger and stronger, if your friends cannot support you for that 12 weeks without pressuring you to drink then I guess you got something to think about.

Haha peer pressure ? Last time I checked I wasn't made of jello (shots?) Yes I do em, ain't nothing wrong with partying on the weekends and getting **** faced, I'm already making a sacrifice by consuming a higher whey to vodka ratio to feed my starving muscle children..But on a serious note, I'm not gonna be drinking as much during the cycle, I was referring to the damage that was already done to my slowly regenerating liver and trying to imply that i wouldn't want to send it to its doom by dbol-torture. Anyhow could some one type me out a proper test 500mg anavar hcg (during) cycle? Im looking at my gear like its Kim kardashians p**y waiting on you folks to allow me to penetrate.... My self.. Go big or go home!

 

[Jiigzz]

Im afraid of oral dbol to be honest.. My liver is already taking massive abuse (I party hard) Winnie or var sound good , which one of those is milder and also which one would raise dht less because I think I have too much of that as it is for my age due to high test and finally could anyone type me up a cycle with test e , Winnie or var and hcg (while on cycle)?

I train like a beast and expect at least 20lb for this cycle (12 weeks) I eat 5 times a day and every meal Always has either beef/chicken or fish I usually gain almost 1 pound a week being completely natural (Creatine and a multi V is the only thing I take along with protein isolates during the anabolic window only)

Dat dere anabolic window lol. Id face palm that, thats for sure

 

[superbeast668]

No thats very bad advice. Hcg should never be used in PCT as it mimics (and therefore downregulates) LH

Tell that to dr scally. Google power pct. Clinically proven to reverse AIH




. 6' 180 with low SBHG and 900+ TT levels op? Learn to eat before you use anabolics.

 

[Jiigzz]

Tell that to dr scally. Google power pct. Clinically proven to reverse AIH

. 6' 180 with low SBHG and 900+ TT levels op? Learn to eat before you use anabolics.

People do it and recover, but I wouldnt recommend it unless you knew what you were doing. Ive seen people woth crashed levels after PCT who included hCG

 

[jeremyx1307]

Tell that to dr scally. Google power pct. Clinically proven to reverse AIH




. 6' 180 with low SBHG and 900+ TT levels op? Learn to eat before you use anabolics.

Learn to eat? How dare you disrespect the teachings of my ancestors , this sacred knowledge has been passed down to me by my mother when I was just an infant , aside from teaching me the basics like how to use utensils such as forks and spoons she also blessed me with ancient knowledge and taught me about the importance of protein , vegetables and vitamins so I could grow taller and eventually reach my genetic potential!

It is true that my natural t is on the high end, but it could always be higher! And about that weight ..I suffer from small calve syndrome and my legs have yet to experience a pump, here's a picture so you could compare it to my upper body posted above and get a sense of what I'm talking about .

WARNING : the following images may be graphic to certain audience, viewer discretion advised.

no homo I shed a few tears while posting this .. ( By the way.. Are calves considered good injection sites? I thought maybe.. It will get them to look a bit more swole..)

 

[smshannon001]

If you are going to ask for advice and then try and "one up" or make fun of the person giving you advice, you won't get far.

IMO at 6' talk with your test levels you are small and average at best at 180lbs (unless ur shredded to <5% bf )

Personally with average genetics and many ppl overweight on both sides of my family I got to 210-215 at 5'11".

Get at least to 210 with some decent 1RM on deadlier squat bench and overhead press. Then come looking for advice.

But since you don't like listening to good answers, I'll tell you what you want to hear:

Bloodwork day before cycle, at week 6, at week 21
Weeks 1-12 test e 2x250mg Monday/Thursday
Weeks 9-14 Anavar 75mg ED
Weeks 3-14 hcg 2x250iu Monday Thursday
Or
HCG blast weeks 13-14 500iu EOD

Pct weeks 15-19
Clomid 100/50/50/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20

 

[jeremyx1307]

If you are going to ask for advice and then try and "one up" or make fun of the person giving you advice, you won't get far.

IMO at 6' talk with your test levels you are small and average at best at 180lbs (unless ur shredded to <5% bf )

Personally with average genetics and many ppl overweight on both sides of my family I got to 210-215 at 5'11".

Get at least to 210 with some decent 1RM on deadlier squat bench and overhead press. Then come looking for advice.

But since you don't like listening to good answers, I'll tell you what you want to hear:

Bloodwork day before cycle, at week 6, at week 21
Weeks 1-12 test e 2x250mg Monday/Thursday
Weeks 9-14 Anavar 75mg ED
Weeks 3-14 hcg 2x250iu Monday Thursday
Or
HCG blast weeks 13-14 500iu EOD

Pct weeks 15-19
Clomid 100/50/50/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Thank you ! Repped/liked , this looks legit .. As for bloodwork I posted results along with an upper body pic above at %8 bf , I'm gonna start my cycle tomorrow morning according to your advice. And I'd probably be 200lbs if my lower body was to match my upper.. ( just look at the pics there in the thread) I'm gonna dedicate this cycle to catch up on legs and cut up/pack lean muscle.

 

[jaces]

Great info above ,, but winni is a lot harsher than oral dbol on the liver

 

[jeremyx1307]

Great info above ,, but I would have aded an oral

Anavar is the oral.. Or do u mean an oral kick start?

 

[jaces]

Anavar is the oral.. Or do u mean an oral kick start?

Sory just edited that , dbol wek 1-4 at 30mg and anavar wek 8-12 at 70-80mg a day with the test

 

[smshannon001]

How'd you get ur bf tested?

 

[jeremyx1307]

How'd you get ur bf tested?

Clippers, also have a scale that shows 8 - 9 bf % (random/depends on day). Why? Looks higher?

 

[jaces]

Clippers, also have a scale that shows 8 - 9 bf % (random/depends on day). Why? Looks higher?

Clipers are fine but that tanita scale Is ****

 

[jeremyx1307]

Clipers are fine but that tanita scale Is ****

Haha I know, I trust it as far as weight goes but nothing else. Can't wait to say good bye to baggy beach pants and rock shorts!

They will call me the bodybuilding farmer , WANTED ! For ritually sacrificing his calves to the church of iron!

 

[Lukef2000]

Tell that to dr scally. Google power pct. Clinically proven to reverse AIH . 6' 180 with low SBHG and 900+ TT levels op? Learn to eat before you use anabolics.

Umm doesn't the power pct program say to blast it in the two weeks prior to pct?

 

[Lukef2000]

Learn to eat? How dare you disrespect the teachings of my ancestors , this sacred knowledge has been passed down to me by my mother when I was just an infant , aside from teaching me the basics like how to use utensils such as forks and spoons she also blessed me with ancient knowledge and taught me about the importance of protein , vegetables and vitamins so I could grow taller and eventually reach my genetic potential! It is true that my natural t is on the high end, but it could always be higher! And about that weight ..I suffer from small calve syndrome and my legs have yet to experience a pump, here's a picture so you could compare it to my upper body posted above and get a sense of what I'm talking about . WARNING : the following images may be graphic to certain audience, viewer discretion advised. <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108436"/> no homo I shed a few tears while posting this .. ( By the way.. Are calves considered good injection sites? I thought maybe.. It will get them to look a bit more swole..)

Sorry bro had to be done lol.

 

[jeremyx1307]

I knew posting that picture would be the end of me.. Its all good , I'm just happy u didn't catch me during clomid pct, I would have cried you a river. Speaking of which, I'm starting the cycle tomorrow morning , will post pics after ! Be prepared with a clever memo to congratulate my gains xD

 

[superbeast668]

Umm doesn't the power pct program say to blast it in the two weeks prior to pct?

days 1-14 HCG eod, 1-30 clomid, 15-45 nolva basically

 

[Grayson]

You guys should really stop helping him. He's just a jackass that just further perpetuates the dbag musclehead type and isn't worthy of any of the muscle that he might build during his "anabolic window."

Go ahead and neg me.

 

[jeremyx1307]

You guys should really stop helping him. He's just a jackass that just further perpetuates the dbag musclehead type and isn't worthy of any of the muscle that he might build during his "anabolic window."

Go ahead and neg me.

That couldn't be further from the truth, also, i got all the help I needed and repped everyone envolved

 

[smshannon001]

Clippers, also have a scale that shows 8 - 9 bf % (random/depends on day). Why? Looks higher?

Only slightly!

I would have guessed 10-12% but it all depends on how much fat you hold in ur legs

 

[superbeast668]

Deleted

 

[jaces]

Haha wow smeone has sme roid rage

 

[jeremyx1307]

Haha wow smeone has sme roid rage

Yeah at least we know his gear is gooood (when you calm down email me the source