1-Andro kills my energy!

[d1440]

I cant finish more than two exercises! yesterday I did 4 sets of bicep curls , 3 sets of ab exercise (bicycle kick) and I was done . NO ENERGY.

within a few hours of me taking the pill im super sluggish.

just want to know if anyone else had their exercise duration cut down like that from 1-andro. is it OK ?


possibly related: im prescribed androgel too .

 

[Jar1985]

It sounds like you need a test base.

 

[d1440]

It sounds like you need a test base.

Man this is kind of crazy, Im trying to read about what test base is at work but a lot of the sites are blocked, but I'd rather not order more supplements this month

 

[d1440]

So test base will keep my energy levels steady throughout the day ? will it help gains also ?
What's an example of test base supplement?

 

[murman89]

1-dhea converts to 1-test through 1-ad as an intermediary. 1-t is known to cause lethargy, to combat this you should stack it with 4-dhea/4-ad, since that compound converts to testosterone. Most ph's have reduced sides (lethargy, libido, etc) if paired with testosterone or something that converts to testosterone.

 

[d1440]

1-dhea converts to 1-test through 1-ad as an intermediary. 1-t is known to cause lethargy, to combat this you should stack it with 4-dhea/4-ad, since that compound converts to testosterone. Most ph's have reduced sides (lethargy, libido, etc) if paired with testosterone or something that converts to testosterone.

What's a popular 4-dhea / 4-ad supplement with people on this board? something from trustworthy website people commonly order?

damn, I wish I knew about this before I killed half my bottle of 1-andro .

 

[murman89]

FRL - alphabulk - top pickAndrofactory - bulk-up - $$$ but great additionAms - 4-adIronMagLabs - 4-adWhat company are using and at what dose, for how long? What's your program look like?

What's a popular 4-dhea / 4-ad supplement with people on this board? something from trustworthy website people commonly order?damn, I wish I knew about this before I killed half my bottle of 1-andro .

 

[d1440]

FRL - alphabulk - top pickAndrofactory - bulk-up - $$$ but great additionAms - 4-adIronMagLabs - 4-adWhat company are using and at what dose, for how long? What's your program look like?

Can you PLEASE format the post for me ? :happysad: looks like good info but I cant make sense of it :happysad:

 

[murman89]

Sorry, on my phone...formatting is all wack. Frl alphabulk would be my pick or androfactory bulk up if you have the extra $$.

Can you PLEASE format the post for me ? :happysad: looks like good info but I cant make sense of it :happysad:

 

[d1440]

Sorry, on my phone...formatting is all wack. Frl alphabulk would be my pick or androfactory bulk up if you have the extra $$.

It sounds like you need a test base.

Thanks I will order Alphabulk -- will a test base offer any additional gains ?

 

[Royd The Noyd]

Wtf OP said he is on Androgel. That is testosterone. Up the dose if you can. No need to buy 4-DHEA.

 

[murman89]

Whoops! Completely missed that. As royd says, just up the androgel.

Wtf OP said he is on Androgel. That is testosterone. Up the dose if you can. No need to buy 4-DHEA.

 

[d1440]

Wtf OP said he is on Androgel. That is testosterone. Up the dose if you can. No need to buy 4-DHEA.

Whoops! Completely missed that. As royd says, just up the androgel.

Just want to say this is not an option as it's prescribed at the lowest dose (5 grams 1% a day), so for now I will continue with my lethargic ass until the 1-andro bottle runs out as long as you say it's ok. I dont really mind the feeling, as long as its not unhealthy. :silly:

But when I see my doctor Im going to go for shots, or more cream if he denies the shots

 

[d1440]

Also trying to frantically cancel my order for Alphabulk from Orbit Nutrition, hope they dont ship it out

 

[Royd The Noyd]

You can always lower the 1 Andro dose

 

[reps4jesus]

I'm gonna put it simple for ya...man up. It's called lethargy. Drink a cup of coffee and do what needs to be done. Otherwise your cycle will be worthless.

 

[blacklac]

Don't dose it preworkout?

 

[bert45]

Thanks I will order Alphabulk -- will a test base offer any additional gains ?

Look into (M1D Andro) sublingual delivery good stuff its also a 4 dhea product.

 

[Blergs]

Man this is kind of crazy, Im trying to read about what test base is at work but a lot of the sites are blocked, but I'd rather not order more supplements this month

Test base as in never do an oral only cycle!.... : /
Have a test shot every week to at least replace what you are losing if not making it the main part of your cycle....

 

[d1440]

I'm gonna put it simple for ya...man up. It's called lethargy. Drink a cup of coffee and do what needs to be done. Otherwise your cycle will be worthless.

thats cool, I can keep doing this - I was hoping this is the answer anyway so I dont have to switch my supps. But I just HAD to ask about this lethargy. also I'll stop dosing it pre workout.

Test base as in never do an oral only cycle!.... : /
Have a test shot every week to at least replace what you are losing if not making it the main part of your cycle....

I take prescription Androgel every morning ! that good enough? 5grams @ 10% (50mg per tube)

 

[reps4jesus]

thats cool, I can keep doing this - I was hoping this is the answer anyway so I dont have to switch my supps. But I just HAD to ask about this lethargy. also I'll stop dosing it pre workout.

I take prescription Androgel every morning ! that good enough? 5grams @ 10% (50mg per tube)

It should be..isn't that a form of trt? What would that be equal to in terms of testosterone? Because that in itself should be enough for lethargy. Also if your on trt you don't need a pct.
You should get your doc to prescribe injections instead

 

[d1440]

It should be..isn't that a form of trt? What would that be equal to in terms of testosterone? Because that in itself should be enough for lethargy. Also if your on trt you don't need a pct.
You should get your doc to prescribe injections instead

yep it is TRT - its 50mg of testosterone per tube once daily - i just feel like after a few hours the androgel wears off and the lethargy kicks in.

no big deal, Im making do with what I have though, , before my next Dr checkup I will gather some tips on how to ask him for the injections instead,
so hopefully I can shoot myself once a week instead of smearing this piss smelling ketchup packet on myself every morning :beerchug:

 

[d1440]

Thank you reps4jesus, Royd The Noyd, murman89, blacklac, Blergs

 

[reps4jesus]

yep it is TRT - its 50mg of testosterone per tube once daily - i just feel like after a few hours the androgel wears off and the lethargy kicks in.

no big deal, Im making do with what I have though, , before my next Dr checkup I will gather some tips on how to ask him for the injections instead,
so hopefully I can shoot myself once a week instead of smearing this piss smelling ketchup packet on myself every morning :beerchug:

You'd want to get 2 injections weekly most likely. I think stano at 800-1200mg would be perfect for you. Or derma. Possibly trestolone but that's very potent, and if your running 1-dhea idk if you want to run something as potent as trest.

 

[d1440]

You'd want to get 2 injections weekly most likely. I think stano at 800-1200mg would be perfect for you. Or derma. Possibly trestolone but that's very potent, and if your running 1-dhea idk if you want to run something as potent as trest.

can you get stano online in shots?

 

[genetix82]

No you cannot get stano online in shots. You can't obtain anything online in shots legally. Stanodrol is a debatable prohormone. Some say it's a precursor to dht. Some say it doesn't convert to anything. I've personally ran it at 800-1000 . Kept me aggressive in the gym and leaned me out a tad. Go to your doctor and get your bloodwork done. Your trt dosage may not be enough. Run 4ad

 

[murman89]

Another possibility would be running "the 1", it's methyl-dht-oxime (also known as dplex). OL just came out with a clone, some people prefer the 1 to stano, I'm effect and because of the lower dosage required.