Epistane/Stano Cycle for First Time User

[Future_Juicer]

Hello brethren's, on July 21st I will be doing the following cycle:

Compounds

Vital Labs 2A3A Epistane- 20/30/40/40/40/40
Vital Labs Stano Shred- 400/600/800/800/800/800

On Cycle Support

C.E.L Cycle Assist- 9/day
Liv 52- 6/day
multi-vitamin
Taurine- 5g/day
Glucosamine- 2 servings a day

Post Cycle Therapy

Torem- 120/90/60/30/15
DAA- 3g/day
Creatine- 5g/day
Revolution PCT- 1cap/day

Extras

Hawthorn Berry
Zinc
Cranberry

Stats

Age: 21
Weight: 185
BF: 17%
Bench: 225
Squat: 245
Deadlift: workout at planet so.....

Goals

My goals are to lose some body fat and gain some strength. Will be logging my results for fun weekly. Any concerns?

 

[Wolfy3d2000]

May consider adding an AI to your pct, something like erase at 0/0/3/2/1

 

[stann123]

May consider adding an AI to your pct, something like erase at 0/0/3/2/1

Pretty sure rev pct has arimistane.
Also just start at 30mg

 

[Future_Juicer]

Yeah rev has 25mg of arimistane. And ill up to 30 starting day 2 then.

If I want to the the most out of my cycle, how should my diet be? 2000 cal, 2800 cal, 3300 cal?

 

[stann123]

Yeah rev has 25mg of arimistane. And ill up to 30 starting day 2 then.

If I want to the the most out of my cycle, how should my diet be? 2000 cal, 2800 cal, 3300 cal?

No one on this forum can answer that question for you. Find your maintenance calories and adjust from there

 

[fame126]

how did it go im gonna run the same stack but epi @30/40/40/50

 

[TacTownbeast]

You might want to add an AI like Aromasin and taper it down. 0/0/12.5/12.5/6/6/0, to combat rebound estro sides. And I would start the Stano two weeks early.
Maybe go 600/800/800/1000/1000/1000/1000. I did the same cycle as you have planned, and crashed hella hard from the Lethargy. and star the Epi at 30, don't waste your time with 20.

 

[fame126]

You might want to add an AI like Aromasin and taper it down. 0/0/12.5/12.5/6/6/0, to combat rebound estro sides. And I would start the Stano two weeks early. Maybe go 600/800/800/1000/1000/1000/1000. I did the same cycle as you have planned, and crashed hella hard from the Lethargy. and star the Epi at 30, don't waste your time with 20.

if i ran stano 2 weeks early it would be 600/600/800/1000/0 and i would starting my epi in the middle of stano which means two weeks without stano on the end of epi cycle.hope that makes sense but would that work?

 

[fame126]

also, is stano used really only to combat lethargy or would i see gains from it? just tryin to decide whether or not i really even need it

 

[TacTownbeast]

If you're running the Epi for 6 Weeks, I would run the Stano for 8. The Stano is used more as a "base" and to help with the sides like lethargy. IMO it is definitely worth running, and you will get a little benefit in strength and size. These two are more for recomp as Epi isn't a "mass" builder.