Hdrol or epistane??

[riseabove5]

I am about to start my first ph cycle. I plan on running my first cycle for 4 weeks. I heard hdrol is a solid first ph but I have heard many good things about epistane. Suggestions?

I'm 6'1 200lbs, I train 5 days a week and I've been lifting for about 5 years

 

[Abe Lincoln]

Only 4 weeks? Both those are recommended for longer, as the gains start around week 3 I believe. If you want a 4 week cycle try lose dose DMZ.

 

[Driven2lift]

6 weeks is best on a Halo or Epi cycle, read some logs here on AM fir examples and get a feel of the compounds.

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[mw1]

A 4 week cycle is fine for a first run- Run hdrol at 50-75mg or Epi at 30-40 mgs along with CEL's Cycle Assist and followed up with Nolva and natty test booster like DAA

 

[Bigdaz123]

I did epistane @ 30/45/45/45/45mg... Gained about 16pounds for my first cycle... Zero side effects Cept for my nuts hurting that one day 1 week in to pct

 

[omar924]

I just asked this question a few days ago and everyone has different opinions. I came to the conclusion that you can't go wrong with either. Think about a low dose of dmz too, especially if your trying to do a 4 week cycle.

 

[riseabove5]

I also heard I shouldn't take pre workout while cycling ph's is that true?

 

[Peppers]

It may cause blood pressure issues.
Really dependent on the person.

 

[riseabove5]

Depending on what?

 

[Peppers]

How you react.

Personally, I'm a stim junkie, but on cycle I cut it out for the most part. Some people don't get effected by pre workouts on cycle, some people do.