Incredibly tired from cycle (Dbol/Test E)

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Hey there, I have been lifting for quite a while and decided to take my first cycle, I'm currently at 400mg/week and 20mg dboll per day, I feel incredibly tired and want to sleep almost 18 hours a day. I am taking 0.5 arimidex every three days.

My Test e cycle looks as the following:
250mg, 400mg, 400mg, 400mg, 600mg, 600mg, 600mg, 600mg, 600mg, 250mg with 20mg of dboll per day.

Arimidex 0.5mg EOD.

From what I gather the source is very reputabale and high quality with great dboll yet I have yet to see any gain in mass or strength, I feel incredibly tired throughout the day. What am I doing horribly wrong?
 
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Dude your dbol is suspect, if its not real than your crushing ur e2 with the adex. First or second week dbol should be kicking in, by week 3 you should def see some mass and strength gains even at 20 mgs
 

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Dude your dbol is suspect, if its not real than your crushing ur e2 with the adex. First or second week dbol should be kicking in, by week 3 you should def see some mass and strength gains even at 20 mgs
The dboll is not only legit many people claim it's overdosed, anyway I will keep going and will see how it turns out, maybe it's just temporary.
 
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Have you tried supplementing with something like pregnenolone some people on here have mentioned that it helps with the fatigue
 

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i gaurante its the dbol making you lethargic. lower dose? dbol is strong even at 10mg
 

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i ran the SAME exact cycle before imo the best bet is 10-15mg dbol 4-5 weeks. test E at 250/250/300/350/400/350/300/250/250/200.
 
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I think either your e2 is too low, or your test is bunk. Even with bunk dbol, you should be feeling like a champ on the test.

Even if it is a reputable supplier, they could have become bunk recently. Make sure your source reviews are current

Why are people ramping up and down their test?
 
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i gaurante its the dbol making you lethargic. lower dose? dbol is strong even at 10mg
dbol does that to a lot of people. it effects dopamine which can have different reactions in different people. but I agree, its the dbol probably.
 
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Dude your dbol is suspect, if its not real than your crushing ur e2 with the adex. First or second week dbol should be kicking in, by week 3 you should def see some mass and strength gains even at 20 mgs
I took 20mg a day of dbol on my last cycle, and gained 12lbs in the first 2 weeks.
 
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Thats why none of this makes any sense, no strength or mass gains in 3 weeks of "highly potent" dbol...On the first few days my lifts go up, by 2 weeks +10 to 15lbs and strong as sh*t...not to mention the test..something is not right
 
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Thats why none of this makes any sense, no strength or mass gains in 3 weeks of "highly potent" dbol...On the first few days my lifts go up, by 2 weeks +10 to 15lbs and strong as sh*t...not to mention the test..something is not right
yea, I missed the part about, no mass or strength gains, lol. something isn't right. ai's can be detrimental to gains, at least for me, and I only use them if necessary, but damn, he should have gained something in 3 weeks.
 

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yea, I missed the part about, no mass or strength gains, lol. something isn't right. ai's can be detrimental to gains, at least for me, and I only use them if necessary, but damn, he should have gained something in 3 weeks.
I did make my standard natty gains, nothing beyond that though.

If you're lifting you're going to make some gains no matter what, I was under the impression skin tears and crazy gains are to expect, apparently not.
 
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Going up 10 or so pounds in a matter of days on you lifts is not standard natty gains, not to mention the 10 to 15lbs of mass gains in a matter of weeks is not standard natty gains. Sombody with fresh receptors, a first cycle like this should yield significant gains 15 to 30 lbs is common.
 

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What brand was the stuff by? If anything was by nitro , I feel for ya lol
 

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I would run 50 mg dbol with test, tren, eq, and not have lethargy. Something's wrong.
 

itsmemax

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Turns out it was the melanotan 2, feel pretty stupid for overlooking it.
 
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ok but no mass or strength gains, still does not explain this. If training and diet are on point you should still be gaining. Mt2 might cut into mass gains a bit but you should still be making gains. I made the mistake of taking mt2 on a bulk, didn't realize how much it was gonna suppress my appetite, but still made good gains.
 

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