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So im going to be safe and not take PH's until after my season and get more info on them and do the cycle right. So until then i wanna take a natty stack that will give me good gains for bout 2-3 months. Any ideas?
Beta-alanine, creatine, DAA, Ribose, CLA, Arginine / Citrulline Malate, Glutamine, BCAASo im going to be safe and not take PH's until after my season and get more info on them and do the cycle right. So until then i wanna take a natty stack that will give me good gains for bout 2-3 months. Any ideas?
Will do. Or are there any supps that won't show up on drug tests becuase my season is coming upBeta-alanine, creatine, DAA, Ribose, CLA, Arginine / Citrulline Malate, Glutamine, BCAA
Check out Jim Stoppani's 'Shortcut-to-size' supplement overview on bodybuilding.com.
Shortcut to Size is just a way to market supplements.Beta-alanine, creatine, DAA, Ribose, CLA, Arginine / Citrulline Malate, Glutamine, BCAA
Check out Jim Stoppani's 'Shortcut-to-size' supplement overview on bodybuilding.com.
Maybe so, but I did 'Shortcut-to-size' and had my best gains ever.Shortcut to Size is just a way to market supplements.
Glutamine is useless, CLA has little to no evidence behind it, not sure about Ribose, and Cit Mal is superior to Arginine.
BCAAs won't be needed except for fasted training.
DAA is a decent choice for a natty cycle.
Maybe try something like EndoSurge Turbo as well.
Well heres my situation. I have a deadline of june 23rd to because we can be drug tested. I was planning on taking finaflex 1-andro for a 3-4 week cycle and then OTC pct after but i heard they're both detectable and i dont know how long they'll be in my sysem for, so i either want to get a ph that isnt banned or detectable for drug tests or just good natty stacks.Shortcut to Size is just a way to market supplements.
Glutamine is useless, CLA has little to no evidence behind it, not sure about Ribose, and Cit Mal is superior to Arginine.
BCAAs won't be needed except for fasted training.
DAA is a decent choice for a natty cycle. I assume you are wanting the natty stack for PCT? Depending on the PH you might need more than a natty/OTC stack.
Maybe try something like EndoSurge Turbo as well.
do you play college football? and they test your epi test to test ratios not try to detect compounds, so as long as you get off lets say test in a time where the half lives are dying down to your legal 4:1 ratio you will be fine, same with other compounds.So im going to be safe and not take PH's until after my season and get more info on them and do the cycle right. So until then i wanna take a natty stack that will give me good gains for bout 2-3 months. Any ideas?
You won't achieve anything with four weeks of 1-Andro anyway. Use creatine and beta alanine if you aren't already, and look into arachidonic acid or AnaBeta Elite. Or run the two together.Well heres my situation. I have a deadline of june 23rd to because we can be drug tested. I was planning on taking finaflex 1-andro for a 3-4 week cycle and then OTC pct after but i heard they're both detectable and i dont know how long they'll be in my sysem for, so i either want to get a ph that isnt banned or detectable for drug tests or just good natty stacks.
I dont know how long their in my body for.do you play college football? and they test your epi test to test ratios not try to detect compounds, so as long as you get off lets say test in a time where the half lives are dying down to your legal 4:1 ratio you will be fine, same with other compounds.
Thank you. Do you think I'd gain more muscle with this stack than 4 weeks of andro?X-gells brother by sns and DAA by sns and you have a stack. Problem solved
no, it's a waste x gells and DAA. X gell is the only non steroid product that actually put some noticeable size with a good diet.Thank you. Do you think I'd gain more muscle with this stack than 4 weeks of andro?
and that's the bottom lineNothing natural will give you the same results as hormones.
This looks like a nice stack. But all that comes after proper training, nutrition, and sleep. So make sure those are on point firstXgels (2g pre workout) stacked with creatine, agmatine, and growth factor Xt. Doesn't get much better than this.
I think i might go with this. Would growth factor xt be better than DAA? Also just making sure these are all natty and wont show up in drug tests? Also, do you guys have a website i could order these off for pretty cheap?Xgels (2g pre workout) stacked with creatine, agmatine, and growth factor Xt. Doesn't get much better than this.
ARA PLUS AB OR ABESo im going to be safe and not take PH's until after my season and get more info on them and do the cycle right. So until then i wanna take a natty stack that will give me good gains for bout 2-3 months. Any ideas?
Xgels are often found more expensive than Xfactor. Make sure to shop around. And i would use AB over DAA anyday...no, it's a waste x gells and DAA. X gell is the only non steroid product that actually put some noticeable size with a good diet.
I saw xgels for 30 and xfactor for 50.Xgels are often found more expensive than Xfactor. Make sure to shop around. And i would use AB over DAA anyday...
And whats AB?I saw xgels for 30 and xfactor for 50.
PES AnabetaAnd whats AB?
understandable . Price is never a problem with a company like SNS IMO. I would pay double for their quality products.Xgels are often found more expensive than Xfactor. Make sure to shop around. And i would use AB over DAA anyday...
I second thisFollidrone is a good one as well.
Everything I listed is natty. Check out lockout sup and also getripped nutritionI think i might go with this. Would growth factor xt be better than DAA? Also just making sure these are all natty and wont show up in drug tests? Also, do you guys have a website i could order these off for pretty cheap?
How about 2 xf pls a peak beta for 69$?I saw xgels for 30 and xfactor for 50.
Lol...what's SNS done for us? Re-package stuff we can get from other manufactures at the same quality for lower prices? Case in point: ARA - SNS just rips off what everyone else is doing and has spent allot of RD on and then markets the crap out it as there's and charges more. What has SNS put on the market themselves that has got anywhere? Glychophase for example - worst GDA ever created. Lol....don't believe the hype - believe the results you get and how much you paid for them.understandable . Price is never a problem with a company like SNS IMO. I would pay double for their quality products.
Bet I can always find Xfactor for cheaper than Xgels - everyday of the week. You know why? Cause I scan the market daily....I saw xgels for 30 and xfactor for 50.
im not hurting for money. And if you would like to make a forum about cheap prices be my guest. Op asked about about natty stacks so I posted a stack that worked for me not about bargin prices. But I'm sure he thanks you for it. I'm sorry if it's your time of the monthLol...what's SNS done for us? Re-package stuff we can get from other manufactures at the same quality for lower prices? Case in point: ARA - SNS just rips off what everyone else is doing and has spent allot of RD on and then markets the crap out it as there's and charges more. What has SNS put on the market themselves that has got anywhere? Glychophase for example - worst GDA ever created. Lol....don't believe the hype - believe the results you get and how much you paid for them.
LOL!You won't find too many members that will agree with you. Supplements can get expensive and most of us are looking for best value we can find (so we can buy more supplements). Spend your millions bud I am not hurting for money believe me - but I will be retiring long before dicks with an attitude like yours.im not hurting for money. And if you would like to make a forum about cheap prices be my guest. Op asked about about natty stacks so I posted a stack that worked for me not about bargin prices. But I'm sure he thanks you for it. I'm sorry if it's your time of the month
Dude he didn't even say anything to you that's worth acting the way you are.LOL!You won't find too many members that will agree with you. Supplements can get expensive and most of us are looking for best value we can find (so we can buy more supplements). Spend your millions bud I am not hurting for money believe me - but I will be retiring long before dicks with an attitude like yours.
my girl told me tampex is the best.LOL!You won't find too many members that will agree with you. Supplements can get expensive and most of us are looking for best value we can find (so we can buy more supplements). Spend your millions bud I am not hurting for money believe me - but I will be retiring long before dicks with an attitude like yours.
You think MN created Ara? Baker, you're a riot!Lol...what's SNS done for us? Re-package stuff we can get from other manufactures at the same quality for lower prices? Case in point: ARA - SNS just rips off what everyone else is doing and has spent allot of RD on and then markets the crap out it as there's and charges more. What has SNS put on the market themselves that has got anywhere? Glychophase for example - worst GDA ever created. Lol....don't believe the hype - believe the results you get and how much you paid for them.
why dont you just take real gear and research the half lives/detection times and not waste your money?Thank you. Do you think I'd gain more muscle with this stack than 4 weeks of andro?
Well MN did not create SNS pimp. They R and D'd it. SNS would not have it out on the market if it was not for MN. I have been using ARA for years bud and I am aware of what they were charging. When you don't have to do R and D, you don't need to charge much do ya? And when your the only game in town, you can charge more. Either way, today I can find MN ARA cheaper than SNS ARA anyday of the week.You think MN created Ara? Baker, you're a riot!
How about any company that makes creatine? Are they ripping off other companies? Or fish oil? Or agmatine? Or other single bulk products? That's all Ara is. Its not a formula. We are not stealing anything. Do you have any idea how much MN charged for Ara before SNS came on the scene?
You have a hard on for knocking SNS so your viewpoint has zero merit anymore. You look for a reason to bash us. Stop fishing bro, you're trying to hard.
Yea,cause everyone sees me pushing sns hard right? Check my post history.Well MN did not create SNS pimp. They R and D'd it. SNS would not have it out on the market if it was not for MN. I have been using ARA for years bud and I am aware of what they were charging. When you don't have to do R and D, you don't need to charge much do ya? And when your the only game in town, you can charge more. Either way, today I can find MN ARA cheaper than SNS ARA anyday of the week.
No your not stealing, your just packaging the same stuff as everyone else and charging more. Is your creatine or anything else you make better than say NP grade? No, it's not. So why do you charge more? To pay for your marketing?
I have lots of merit, don't I? And I do have a hard on for SNS - not as much the products, but how they are aggressively pimped. It's your mandate, but me any many many other members which some of you guys would disappear. It ruins the forum and the flow of allot of threads. Get some class like PES for example. Be educational with light pimping. Relying on a strong product and logs.
Respect man..respect. What ground breaking and long lasting supplements have you brought to market (yourself personally or SNS)? Lol...Yea,cause everyone sees me pushing sns hard right? Check my post history.
Not sure how much r an d went into figuring out omega 6 fatty acids cause inflammation.
Maybe opening a college level nutrition text book?
So why are you getting in on this? Do you like fueling pissing matches? IMO, the guy was a dick - do you think I care what you think? Do you think anyone cares what you think lol? PES pimps with class as do most of the other retailers. I rarely have a problem with anyone on the forum. End it.We get it, you don't like SNS. No one cares. All companies that have a presence here, pimp their products. Yes, even PES. Its not reps that ruin the forum, its these idiotic pissing matches. Its ironic that you call other dicks and tell SNS to have class and then go out of your way to start an argument.
He's getting into this because you're calling out one of the most legit companies in the industry.So why are you getting in on this? Do you like fueling pissing matches? IMO, the guy was a dick - do you think I care what you think? Do you think anyone cares what you think lol? PES pimps with class as do most of the other retailers. I rarely have a problem with anyone on the forum. End it.
I was a dick? I didn't get that from my post.So why are you getting in on this? Do you like fueling pissing matches? IMO, the guy was a dick - do you think I care what you think? Do you think anyone cares what you think lol? PES pimps with class as do most of the other retailers. I rarely have a problem with anyone on the forum. End it.
You may want to check the prices again bro; it seems as though your slightly confused. Check the price of our creatine compared to NP's. We sell a 1.2kg tub for $14.24 vs $17 for NP's own label. Did you even check? Or make a false assumption?Well MN did not create SNS pimp. They R and D'd it. SNS would not have it out on the market if it was not for MN. I have been using ARA for years bud and I am aware of what they were charging. When you don't have to do R and D, you don't need to charge much do ya? And when your the only game in town, you can charge more. Either way, today I can find MN ARA cheaper than SNS ARA anyday of the week.
No your not stealing, your just packaging the same stuff as everyone else and charging more. Is your creatine or anything else you make better than say NP grade? No, it's not. So why do you charge more? To pay for your marketing?
I have lots of merit, don't I? And I do have a hard on for SNS - not as much the products, but how they are aggressively pimped. It's your mandate, but me any many many other members which some of you guys would disappear. It ruins the forum and the flow of allot of threads. Get some class like PES for example. Be educational with light pimping. Relying on a strong product and logs.
The key is that new folks to supplementation need to look beyond the hype and shop around. It's hard for them to do that - when aggressive companies like SNS are in their face constantly where more reps per square inch trolling this forum than any other company. Although it's any companies goal to gain higher sales and exposure - too much can often result in a negative effect. Causing the customer base to get turned off. Once in a while, I take the opportunity to new folks aware that there are options - possibly better or cheaper or both. This is where pimping falls short is dependent on how aggressive the pimp or company is. Again, many find SNS to overly aggressive and have way too much representation on the forum.He's getting into this because you're calling out one of the most legit companies in the industry.
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