OK, realy quick, cuz I gotta run. I'm finishing up on my 2nd week of the SD solo. I'm pumping the carbs/protein/calories/water like never before! The office stinks VERY BAD because of me. I started last week @ 10mg. Saw minimal results. Did lean out a little, strength went up very little, (poss. placebo effect..) I think I may have gained a pound. BUmped up to 20mg on Monday. The strength gains have definitely gone up. So much, that I'm hurting! Not a good hurt either. The joints (all) are hurting. The pumps are awesome, but the joint pain is now holding me back from lifting any heavier weights. What's a good joint pain compound? I see the Glucosamine Sulfate w/ the MSM. Is there any one pill that anybody would recommend? I definitely need help on this. My shoulders & lower back (I know it's not a pump) have been killing me all week! I'll check the gains tonight when I get home from work & then again tomorrow morning when I wake up.