First Prohormone Stack Need Advice

[khanidor]

I am 25 and have been lifting for 4 years now.

I have been tossing around the idea of a prohormone for a while.

In my research I saw that havoc by RPN is a good starting point.

I need some help with the overall process because my main concern is doing this properly.

1) is havoc the best product for a first time cycle? If not what else is out there that would fit me better.
2) as for the post cycle ( the most important part) Can someone go through what I need if I were to do a 4 week cycle.
3) during the post cycle I researched that nolvadex was the best and necessary to have a safe post cycle. The only problem is that I cant find a relaible source online that I trust enough to purchase the generic. Any tips??

Thank you in advance

 

[jman6]

keep researching..

 

[Thatguy_603]

I am 25 and have been lifting for 4 years now.

I have been tossing around the idea of a prohormone for a while.

In my research I saw that havoc by RPN is a good starting point.

I need some help with the overall process because my main concern is doing this properly.

1) is havoc the best product for a first time cycle? If not what else is out there that would fit me better.
2) as for the post cycle ( the most important part) Can someone go through what I need if I were to do a 4 week cycle.
3) during the post cycle I researched that nolvadex was the best and necessary to have a safe post cycle. The only problem is that I cant find a relaible source online that I trust enough to purchase the generic. Any tips??

Thank you in advance

Havoc is a good starter.
4 weeks would be useless go for 6 weeks.
Pct Nolva 4 weeks. Followed by an ai.
Source tip : google is ur friend. Use it. U can find all the info ur looking for if u put some time into it. Not gonna spoon-feed u.
Google: research chemicals
My advice is ur not ready. Keep reaserching

 

[Mystere3]

1) yes

2) novla 20/20/10/10 and daa

3) google liquinovla

I am 25 and have been lifting for 4 years now.

I have been tossing around the idea of a prohormone for a while.

In my research I saw that havoc by RPN is a good starting point.

I need some help with the overall process because my main concern is doing this properly.

1) is havoc the best product for a first time cycle? If not what else is out there that would fit me better.
2) as for the post cycle ( the most important part) Can someone go through what I need if I were to do a 4 week cycle.
3) during the post cycle I researched that nolvadex was the best and necessary to have a safe post cycle. The only problem is that I cant find a relaible source online that I trust enough to purchase the generic. Any tips??

Thank you in advance

 

[khanidor]

Thanks.

I see that it is being sold by "guys" are they reliable if anyone knows?

Also I want to take Liver support, Joint support, during and after the cycle.

Anything else?

 

[Mystere3]

Guys are legit.

I'd use CEL cycle assist, during the cycle and consider erase in pct.

Also take fish oil.

 

[jman6]

u don't need joint or liver support after cycle. you will need fish oil and taurine and multis to go with on cycle support. And i dont where you are looking to buy them from "guys". These things are legal , do a ****in google search for christ sakes. u are not ready for first cycle yet.. you need to do more research. i have ran one epi cycle and didnt get to finish it because of sides. realize what you are getting into before you start.

 

[jman6]

what are you stats anyways??

 

[khanidor]

u don't need joint or liver support after cycle. you will need fish oil and taurine and multis to go with on cycle support. And i dont where you are looking to buy them from "guys". These things are legal , do a ****in google search for christ sakes. u are not ready for first cycle yet.. you need to do more research. i have ran one epi cycle and didnt get to finish it because of sides. realize what you are getting into before you start.

Thats why I am here. I did a search and all i got were a bunch of different sites that all look the same. Im not worried about the money im worried about the product actually doing its job.

I am looking for something simple and easy in the prohormone world thats why I was asking if everything i read online pointing to havoc is true....

 

[jman6]

what is your weight and height

 

[Mystere3]

He's referring to a research chem site, we aren't allowed to post the names here.

u don't need joint or liver support after cycle. you will need fish oil and taurine and multis to go with on cycle support. And i dont where you are looking to buy them from "guys". These things are legal , do a ****in google search for christ sakes. u are not ready for first cycle yet.. you need to do more research. i have ran one epi cycle and didnt get to finish it because of sides. realize what you are getting into before you start.

 

[khanidor]

what is your weight and height

I am 510 160

I know i know I have ALOT of room to grow, but eating 3500 calories a day and pushing myself hard at the gym and only gaining strength not size is getting annoying

 

[jman6]

yeah, buddy head over to the nutrition section. u said you have been training for 4 years i find it hard to believe that you haven't changed your training or nutrition habits. one thing you can do is slow your metabolism down so you dont burn so much. hence you will gain weight and build muscle. it is hard, but is necessary if you can't gain. A prohormone is not the answer. steroids are not crutchs they are toys that you getting to play with after you maximize your natural potenial