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    High blood pressure from PH'S


    Is there an effective way to counter the high blood pressure caused by Pro-Hormones?

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    well, im sure you've heard of hawthorn berry and stufff like that, but th best thing i can recommend is keeping your weight down - ****ing stay ripped while on a ph cycle and reap the rewards---- seriously, keeping your weight donw on a ph cycle will keep your bp low if your worried about it - be healthy and bp is no issue
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    I am taking SD right now, and it has caused my systolic blood pressuer to jump pretty high. I normally sit around 100-110/65-70 but i measured tonight and sys came back around 137. I guess that explains the couple of mild nosebleeds I have had. Granted the reading could be wrong since it was one of those crap ones in the pharmacy area at your local grocery store.
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    I get this too...Blood pressure, prostate, liver, and elevated cholesteral is all the common symptoms...
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    While "on" I take 10g fish oil ED, 4g Hawthorn ED, Vit E, Pro-Liver, and saw palmetto. Drink lots of water and like BigPJ said, keep the excess weight to a minimum.
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    Some people have also recommended celery seed extract on here. Run a search.

    It seems that with a lot of these (e.g. hawthorn berry extract), you need to start running them several weeks before your cycle in order for them to have an effect.
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    What does ED mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel
    What does ED mean?
    ED = Every day
    EOD = Every other day
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel
    What does ED mean?
    erectile dysfunction?
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    4g of Hawthorn? Are you buying this in bulk somewhere?
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    Hawethorne is nice but as others stated it has to be started weel in advance of a cycle to be of benefit.

    Celery seed is EXCELLENT for cycles as it works immediately. It has the added benefits of being a mild diuretic, vasodialator, muscle relaxant and analgesic. It'll keep down some of the bloat from wet cycles and relax muscles that are sore from training.

    A standarized extract might be hard to find locally. It can be found online at several sources and in bulk at viable-herbal.com. I've been buying just plain old celery seeds, grinding them in a coffee grinder and capping them. Seems to work quite well but I imagine a standardized extract will work better.
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    Thanks Bioman for the info! Just purchased some celery
    seed extract. As I get older I seem to have more probs
    with AAS and HBP (mild). So anything that helps is a plus!
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    i have high BP issues too with ph's. i've had great results from coQ10 at 60mgs per day. it's also supposed to help lower blood lipids significantly.
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    I just started taking 100mg ED of coQ10 hope that lowers my systolic levels a few notches since SD raises it about 30-40 points
    Last edited by BOHICA; 02-03-2005 at 03:01 PM.
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    Here is some info on celery seed extract:
    Celery Seed for blood pressure
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOHICA
    I just started taking coQ10 hope that lowers my systolic levels a few notches since SD raises it about 30-40 points

    Let us know how this works for you.

    C12 milk peptides (as found in Twinlab's Blood Pressure Control) work great. Big Verunda did a log and I also ran this for a few weeks (even while on SD). It took 4 days for it to start kicking in but definitely worked well.
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    Is Twinlab the only option... have been looking...
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    As far as I know...yes.
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    do cardio....

    im on M1T/4-AD and my BP has been stable the whole time. im on week 4 now am up 13lbs and been doing cardio regularly.

    my last bulker (S1+) i did no cardio and had serious BP issues...i felt like there was a 100lb weight on my chest.
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    Cardio definitely helps. But for those of use who are predisposed to high BP, you need something extra when using PH/PS, thermogenics (or when you get really pissed). Having some supps in the arsenal as a safety measure is a good idea.
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    My last PP/SD split cycle I was out of town day after cycle ended. I didn't have a place to check BP, but it must have been through the roof because my nose started bleeding for about 5 days, a few times per day. And it was bleeding really hard - out of both sides which isn't normal for me. I would pinch a few minutes longer than my usual minute or two or it would start gushing again. By the time I checked my BP about 5 or 6 days later, I was 155/90. Next time I'll cut cycle to 3 weeks instead of 5 or use celery seed extract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    Celery seed is EXCELLENT for cycles as it works immediately. It has the added benefits of being a mild diuretic, vasodialator, muscle relaxant and analgesic. It'll keep down some of the bloat from wet cycles and relax muscles that are sore from training.

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    at what dose?
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