Contest Prep/ First Injectable Cycle

[Matt282]

Lifting for 4 years:
Height: 5'8
Weight: 164
Body fat: 10.5%
Bench: 285
Deadlift: 435
Squat: 335


Previous Cycles

Halo-25 for 5 weeks @75mg (+4lbs)

Superdrol 3 weeks @30mg with halo 6 weeks @75mg (+4lbs) -this cycle I messed up on, I started at 164, got up to a solid 180, and then tried to do mini cut to clean up after the SuperDrol ended. I lost 12 pounds and saw my gains literally fall off. Rookie mistake

I plan to start this cycle at 160 @9% bf. The goal is to lose 2.5% bf by the end of the cycle with a big kick for size that I can maintain and easily maintain while I continue to cut.


Proposed Cycle:

Test E weeks 1-12 @400mg/week

Weeks 1-3 Alpha 20 @60mg
Or
Weeks 1-4 Trenavar @120mg

Cycle support weeks 1-4 (preload 2 weeks prior)
Exemestane: weeks 2-12 @ 6.25mg a day

Weeks 7-12 Epistane @40mg week
Weeks 7-12 Cycle supports

Weeks 14-17
Clomid: (100mg first 5 days) 50/50/50/25
T-X3 (daa, fenugreek, arimistane)
SNS X gels

My questions would be is this cycle too harsh on the liver? Could I add different compounds? Would I be better suited with more injectables?

 

[Sr_505]

Your liver will be fine with proper supports. You could run injectable Tren or Masteron to help with cutting, but since it's your first inject cycle, you might just wanna stick with Test.

Edit: Also, those are some pretty solid lifting #'s for your weight. Good work

 

[Matt282]

What about

Test 1-13 400mg/week
Alpha 20 weeks 1-3: @60mg
Trenavar weeks 3-6 @90mg
Epistane weeks 8-13 @40mg

*all previous supports and ancillaries still would be applied*

 

[Sr_505]

What about Test 1-13 400mg/week Alpha 20 weeks 1-3: @60mg Trenavar weeks 3-6 @90mg Epistane weeks 8-13 @40mg *all previous supports and ancillaries still would be applied*

I don't know how much you would get out of those 4 weeks of Trenavar. I'd personally say to just do the Test, Alpha 20 as a kicker, and Epistane as a finisher.

 

[MuscleJ]

Why not inject? I think you will feel more out of the injection and then oral.

 

[Matt282]

So the ALMOST final cycle as follows
Starting March 10th, perhaps will make a log as I will be competing over the second half of the cycle

Test E @ 400mg weeks 1-13
Alpha 20 @ 60mg weeks 1-3
Trenavar @90mg weeks 5-8
Epistane @ 40-60mg weeks 10-15

*Damage Control will be taken during the alpha 20 and the last 4 weeks of the cycle
*Inhibit P possible during the tren
*Exemestane at 6.25mg every weeks 3-10

PCT:
weeks 16-19
Clomid 100/50/50/25
TX3 for 4 weeks at rec. dosage (DAA, Arimistane, Fenugreek)

Think I'm going to stick to one injectible for the first time to see how my nerves respond to the pinning and if i get sore, that way I can easily rotate spots and have longer breaks in between.

 

[Mystere3]

I like the general design, but if your main goal is deceased bf%, which it seems like it is, I might consider anavar and/or oral winny rather than your orals as well as considering gw50156 and s4 in addition to what you're running.

1-4 anavar
1-12 test
8-12 oral winny
1-8 gw/s4

 

[Matt282]

Anavar was originally in the picture, but it's just to expensive to me for what it would be worth. I like the idea of the Winny perhaps instead of Epi, that is a good possibility. And I would need to do more research on S4, don't know much about it. It's a SARM, correct?

 

[Mystere3]

Yeah I just wrote a long summary about sarms in the post titled sarms, might want to check it out.

I agree with anavar being expensive and often fake. If you aren't going to do anavar then maybe start with 6 weeks of epi and finish with oral winny 8-12.

 

[j05441]

Is this your first show? If so you shouldnt use drugs. You should learn to do it the right way first.
First injectable cycle you dont need anything other than test especially tren.

 

[Matt282]

Just to aware those who were interested on how this is going, I am on day 33, (19 days on tren) and up 18 pounds and no change in body fat so far. Looking like this so far.

Weeks 1-14: test E @ 400 mg week

Week 1-3 Alpha 20 @ 60 mg day

Weeks 2.5- 8 (38 days) Pro Tren @ 100 mg days 1-12 and 150 mg a day for the remaining 26

Weeks 11-16 EP15TANE @ 30 mg
Or
Weeks 13-16 DMZ @ 30 mg a day (eager to try this)

Bench is up to 325 minimum (45+ pounds)

Squat is up 70 pounds at 405

Deadlifts have been hard due to back pumps but taurine helps some. Deadlift is only up 40 pounds at 475

I have been running exemestane at 6.25mg every other day, but was doing 12.5 mg every other day, and sometimes every day in the last week of alpha 20

Am now going to be running Clen two weeks on and two weeks off, building up to 75 mcg a day.

Thoughts on Alpha 20:

Not my favorite, had difficulty breathing at the end, lots of water retention, and sore joints. The gains were not all that impressive, Id imagine I only gained 10 "true" pounds off this, as I dropped from 174 at the end of week 3 to 170 after 5 days being off, before I started gaining again from the Tren. Definitely gave me that "alpha mentality" though.

As far as pinning the test, no problems from it, no lethargy and minimal testical shrinkage which is exactly what I hoped to gain from it so far.

Will update again at the end of the tren, and again before and after the Epi. I would consider updating every few days and throwing some pictures in if anyone is interested, however don't wanna spam.

Goals are to now get down to 7-8% bf at 165ish

Sitting at 178 @ 11-12 (same as start, just underestimated)