Pre workout drugs?

[Thesecretman]

Hi guys,

I've read that halotestin, methyltestosterone, anadrol, dianbol, proviron and superdrol can be used for instant strength/ pre workout boost.
Have I missed any? Anyone know of any other drug, steroid or prohormone that can be used for a bit of instant strength?

 

[Matthersby]

It doesn't really work that way....
Cheque drops and some TNE maybe.

But it sounds like you should just stick to a super strong preworkout drink.

 

[LMuscle]

Nothing out there gives you instant strength as far as steroids go. I would think you would be setting yourself up for a quick injury if it were so. Just get a good preworkout supp that keeps your energy/focus high, and the strength will come.

 

[BeastMode13]

check out Hyde, my fav preworkout

 

[Viking23]

If you can get some cheque drop, tne, test suspension or tren suspension you may have something for your goals . Otherwise nothing causes immediate effects. Dbol is great pre-workout but you have to have it build up in your system before it does anything for your workouts. Basically what mathersby said.

These won't cause instant strength but they will be in your system fast enough to effect your workout. Tne may have to be used like 3-4 hours before workout but everything else can be used 30-60 mins before the workout. Suspension can be used just a few minutes before honestly.

 

[mike0589]

30 mg of pure Epistane with a good E-nos blend worked incredibly well for me.

 

[Thesecretman]

What is TNE? When I meant instant strength I didn't mean add on 10ibs to your bench straight after ingesting a tablet. Power lifters take halo prior to competing/ training as it allows them to lift slightly better. A small boost if you like. I've read in many places methyl test and methyl DHT also do this.
Was just curious to know about any other substances that can do this also but not stimulants.

 

[Viking23]

What is TNE? When I meant instant strength I didn't mean add on 10ibs to your bench straight after ingesting a tablet. Power lifters take halo prior to competing/ training as it allows them to lift slightly better. A small boost if you like. I've read in many places methyl test and methyl DHT also do this.
Was just curious to know about any other substances that can do this also but not stimulants.

Tne= test no ester. It is oil based so it still takes a lil to enter the blood stream. Test suspension is water base so it is active almost instantly .

 

[waynaferd]

Dbol and TNE give awesome pumps and I personally don't seem to fatigue as quick...but no instant strength gains..

For PWO I do like Black Powder, but mostly justa caffeine bev is enough.

 

[wicked442]

Meth. It will make you think you are monkey strong.

 

[Matthersby]

Meth. It will make you think you are monkey strong.

A monkey can rip a human's arms off and beat them to death with them.

 

[wicked442]

A monkey can rip a human's arms off and beat them to death with them.

Thats what i am talking about!

 

[Viking23]

Damn I forgot about meth and crack. Two hits of crack and mix a little meth with your tne injection and you are ready to slay some weights!!

 

[wicked442]

Damn I forgot about meth and crack. Two hits of crack and mix a little meth with your tne injection and you are ready to slay some weights!!

Op did say pwo DRUGS.

 

[RecompMan]

Op did say pwo DRUGS.

No pumps like Viagra 35 min preworkout

 

[uprightrows]

Duhh... Adderalll all day, 1 hr pwo you will crush sh*t.

 

[SuperPro]

Superdrol, for me at least, I have found to be very very good for putting on mass quickly but not the best for strength at all. I got better strength gains on 1000mg stano a day, and WAY better on 40-50mg epi. That's my 2 cents.

 

[DangerDave]

No pumps like Viagra 35 min preworkout

This^^^

 

[why3zx]

PCP

 

[jack_black]

PCP

most def! It made this guy strong!


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Williams

 

[cleveland1]

Go to amazon. Buy bulk supps pure caffeine. 1 g= 1000 mg. coffee = 100 mg. buy a scale. Buy some Arginine. Take before gym, get crazy.

200 mg should do you fine. 7 grams will kill you.

 

[why3zx]

youtu.be/0QG3Uwyj15I Don't have 20 posts yet so copy that to your browser and thank me later

 

[LionHeart56]

Alright.

I ****ing LOVE anabolic minds. I started my learning here.

I just straight up made an account because I'm coming back to my roots and I'm gunna teach you mother****ers some **** that I have learned.

I have never seen more BULL**** spouted by a bunch of group-think mother****ers than I have here on anabolic minds. I learned so much here and moved on. I'm coming back to help you mother****ers.



"It doesn't really work that way....just stick to a super strong preworkout drink."

"Nothing out there gives you instant strength as far as steroids go."

"...nothing causes immediate effects. Dbol is great pre-workout but you have to have it build up in your system before it does anything for your workouts....These won't cause instant strength but they will be in your system fast enough to effect your workout."


That's like the first three posts and then a bunch of stupid ass jokes about cheque drops (none of you ***gots under 40 years old have ever had a source for cheque drops) and meth and PCP.



I love you mother****ers and I have not come to belittle you, but goddamnit you guys need help. Next thing I know is gunna be some bull**** about milk thistle and PCT.

Yoda is gunna drop some bombs on your asses he will.

 

[LionHeart56]

I'm gunna follow up with this tomorrow and then start trolling recent threads in an effort to deceminate some real information from people who have actually really used and abused steroids.

My young wolves, pay attention.

 

[asilentj3w]

Mix coke (the drink) and instant coffee. But seriously when I'm on cycle I don't even need a preworkout. Maybe it's just me, but test that has "kicked in" is enough for me

 

[LionHeart56]

Taking dbol and drol pre-workout increases my strength 25% after about two or three days even when on 1750mg a week test, 700mg a week tren, 900mg a week EQ, and 600mg a week mast.

I saw a guy on halo + test suspension rep his max from a week before. My second day on drol EVERYTHING feels ****ing light.

I swear I think some of you guys haven't even used steroids before sometimes.


Take 200mg Test suspension before a workout and tell me it doesn't work. Bull****!


Much love to my fellow iron warriors haha

 

[LionHeart56]

And if you all don't wanna listen to my dumb ass, go talk to some powerlifters or find a powerlifting board and see what protocols they run on contest day.

Hell boxers too. It's rumoured mike tyson was on cheque drops or halo when he bit off holyfields ear. A lot of them guys use epinephrine too (injectable adrenaline).

If you want something you can use more often a good ECA stack can turn you into a maniac preworkout.

And I'm sorry bro's but I think the jokes about PCP and **** are ****ing stupid. I'm not advocating that just anybody use ANY of these compounds but let's get real.

 

[LionHeart56]

FYI on those dosages I talked about above, dbol, winstrol, etc. doesn't make a difference preworkout.

Anadrol apparently works though a different mechanism than other anabolics. I don't know exactly. But the **** works. Just don't take too much or you'll feel sick and it will **** up your workout. 75 - 100mg preworkout for an experienced guy if you are really going balls deep that day is about standard.

I haven't tried halo yet I really want to, and I'd ****ing pay 100 bucks a dose if only I could get a couple doses of cheque drops just to try that **** out I ain't even kidding.

If any of you **** with test suspension watch the aromatization it can sneak up you pretty hard (if you're ready to **** with that you should know better to have an AI ready anyway and know your body).

 

[Matthersby]

I think everyone unsubbed when you came around, Lion King.

 

[LionHeart56]

I think everyone unsubbed when you came around, Lion King.

Whats the matter? You mad because I contradicted what you posted about "it doesn't work that way".

That's a load of bs bro, sorry if you don't like it but I'm just telling the truth.

 

[JJB1]

Hi guys,

I've read that halotestin, methyltestosterone, anadrol, dianbol, proviron and superdrol can be used for instant strength/ pre workout boost.
Have I missed any? Anyone know of any other drug, steroid or prohormone that can be used for a bit of instant strength?

The best thing for an insane pump is 60mg tadalafil. It's like an NO supplements x10.

 

[Peppers]

Did it read this right ^^^ lol

 

[DangerDave]

The best thing for an insane pump is 60mg tadalafil. It's like an NO supplements x10.

I use 20-40mg cialis 1hr prior with my carb heavy meal. then take 5g Creatine ethyl ester, 5g glutamine and 5g taurine mixed with my prewo. THAT is money but I'm also running growth and a healthy amount of AAS. But that combo has me poping veins and splitting skin

 

[LionHeart56]

Haha +1 on the viagra / cialis.

I take tadalafil on days when I really go all out along with AKG powder. Depending on what AAS you are taking with it the pumps can almost be stupidly painful. The other day I couldn't touch my damn nose to blow it with both hands, I could only use one hand at a time if I leaned my head down haha

 

[JJB1]

Haha +1 on the viagra / cialis.

I take tadalafil on days when I really go all out along with AKG powder. Depending on what AAS you are taking with it the pumps can almost be stupidly painful. The other day I couldn't touch my damn nose to blow it with both hands, I could only use one hand at a time if I leaned my head down haha

Awesome! I love that this site has educated people. Very cool! Not many people know about pde5 use as a preworkout.

 

[Peppers]

As if gear wasn't enough, we gotta use dick pumpers to get a pump lol

1st time I've ever heard that..

 

[LionHeart56]

Awesome! I love that this site has educated people. Very cool! Not many people know about pde5 use as a preworkout.

Hell yeah bro. Man, I use pde5 inhibitors for blood pressure control too. The first time I tried to run over a gram of test and high tren at the same time my blood pressure ****ing SKY-ROCKETED, I ended up in the ER I was like 190/110 or some **** like that (I was controlling bloat too).

I had to abort that cycle. Anyway, so since then I've slowly built up my doses to over twice that and I read a long time ago that cialis is great for blood pressure control. I started running it at 12.5mg a day (sometimes I'll double that if me and the wife both have the day off or whatever and feel like having sex all day haha). Anyway, no blood pressure problems since.

It could be a combination of things that I do differently now but I swear it works. Cialis is a ****ing staple for me at this point and I don't have any erectile issues even on nandroline.

 

[LionHeart56]

As if gear wasn't enough, we gotta use dick pumpers to get a pump lol

1st time I've ever heard that..

LMAO its not so bad bro. Even if you are 100% normal functioning down there it still improves sexual performance. It's fun haha. I stop taking it every once in a while for a few weeks just to make SURE I'm not making myself dependent on it and I've never had a problem at all. The thing is is that the fact that they make your dick hard is really just a side effect.


From wikipedia:

"A phosphodiesterase type 5 inhibitor (PDE5 inhibitor) is a drug used to block the degradative action of cGMP-specific phosphodiesterase type 5 (PDE5) on cyclic GMP in the smooth muscle cells lining the blood vessels..."

"PDE5 inhibitors have also been explored for the treatment of pulmonary hypertension..."

"Part of the physiological process of erection involves the release of nitric oxide (NO) in vasculature of the corpus cavernosum as a result of sexual stimulation. NO activates the enzyme guanylate cyclase which results in increased levels of cyclic guanosine monophosphate (cGMP), leading to smooth muscle relaxation in blood vessels supplying the corpus cavernosum, resulting in increased blood flow and an erection.


"PDE5 inhibitors inhibit the degradation of cGMP by PDE5, increasing bloodflow to the penis during sexual stimulation. This mode of action means that PDE5 inhibitors are ineffective without sexual stimulation."

 

[DangerDave]

As if gear wasn't enough, we gotta use dick pumpers to get a pump lol 1st time I've ever heard that..

It doesn't just make your dick hard. It's a vaso dialator. So it increased blood flow in areas stimulated. If you stimulate muscle that's the place blood goes and stays . If you take it and go to the gym and get turned on by all the dudes walking around in tank tops then you are trouble...

 

[babycakes]

Alright.

I ****ing LOVE anabolic minds. I started my learning here.

I just straight up made an account because I'm coming back to my roots and I'm gunna teach you mother****ers some **** that I have learned.

I have never seen more BULL**** spouted by a bunch of group-think mother****ers than I have here on anabolic minds. I learned so much here and moved on. I'm coming back to help you mother****ers.



"It doesn't really work that way....just stick to a super strong preworkout drink."

"Nothing out there gives you instant strength as far as steroids go."

"...nothing causes immediate effects. Dbol is great pre-workout but you have to have it build up in your system before it does anything for your workouts....These won't cause instant strength but they will be in your system fast enough to effect your workout."


That's like the first three posts and then a bunch of stupid ass jokes about cheque drops (none of you ***gots under 40 years old have ever had a source for cheque drops) and meth and PCP.



I love you mother****ers and I have not come to belittle you, but goddamnit you guys need help. Next thing I know is gunna be some bull**** about milk thistle and PCT.

Yoda is gunna drop some bombs on your asses he will.

Been following your post here and there, and your on point my man. So stick around cause this place needs you for reals bro!

 

[LionHeart56]

Been falling your post here and there, and your on point my man. So stick around cause this place needs you for reals bro!

Haha thanks man I really appreciate it!

 

[Peppers]

It doesn't just make your dick hard. It's a vaso dialator. So it increased blood flow in areas stimulated. If you stimulate muscle that's the place blood goes and stays . If you take it and go to the gym and get turned on by all the dudes walking around in tank tops then you are trouble...

Lmao

 

[Peppers]

LMAO its not so bad bro. Even if you are 100% normal functioning down there it still improves sexual performance. It's fun haha. I stop taking it every once in a while for a few weeks just to make SURE I'm not making myself dependent on it and I've never had a problem at all. The thing is is that the fact that they make your dick hard is really just a side effect. From wikipedia:

Don't get me wrong, I use tada. I'm using it now lol

I've just never upped the dosage and went to the gym. If I go over 10-15mg I can't put my pants on. I've upped the dosage once on accident and ended up in the ER lol

It makes sense as far as how it works, thanks for the explanation. I'll be following along on your posts.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

I'm gunna follow up with this tomorrow and then start trolling recent threads in an effort to deceminate some real information from people who have actually really used and abused steroids.

did you mean disseminate?
pehaps you should invest in spell check app before you embark on your quest of educating others..
safe travels

 

[LionHeart56]

did you mean disseminate?
pehaps you should invest in spell check app before you embark on your quest of educating others..
safe travels

Says the guy who doesn't use proper capitalization and punctuation. OOHHHH burn lol, give me a break.

Thank you for the correction.

 

[hardwork25]

Says the guy who doesn't use proper capitalization and punctuation. OOHHHH burn lol, give me a break. Thank you for the correction.

He's right bro. When you come on here yelling and telling everyone how great you are and how much more knowledgable you are than everyone (even if you DO know a lot ) else people will naturally pick apart other things and rightfully so.

Doesn't matter what I say or that you should give 2 fuk's but still.....

 

[LionHeart56]

He's right bro. When you come on here yelling and telling everyone how great you are and how much more knowledgable you are than everyone (even if you DO know a lot ) else people will naturally pick apart other things and rightfully so.

Doesn't matter what I say or that you should give 2 fuk's but still.....

I'm not saying that I know more than everyone. I'm saying that I see a lot of BS on here, that's all. My apologies if I came across as a little brash.

To be honest I'm a little pissed off at a lot of the bull**** information I got starting out a few years ago. I see a lot of people on here repeating information that they've read and not relaying experiences. It's irritating.

 

[DangerDave]

Advice is that. You can really only give two versions of advice for gear. The text book application or your personal experience. No two bodies are the same, what works for one might not for another. It's everyone's job to sift through the BS and find what works for them . What does the textbook say, what do people experience firsthand? Take that info and make your educated guess and try it out and see if it works for you. It's not rocket science. People just want to be told "what should I use?" "How much should I take?" "What should I use for pct ?" THAT is BS. That's someone that is too weak and feeble minded to make a decision and wants to be told what to run. I don't answer this questions.

 

[LionHeart56]

Advice is that. You can really only give two versions of advice for gear. The text book application or your personal experience. No two bodies are the same, what works for one might not for another. It's everyone's job to sift through the BS and find what works for them . What does the textbook say, what do people experience firsthand? Take that info and make your educated guess and try it out and see if it works for you. It's not rocket science. People just want to be told "what should I use?" "How much should I take?" "What should I use for pct ?" THAT is BS. That's someone that is too weak and feeble minded to make a decision and wants to be told what to run. I don't answer this questions.

There are definitely a lot of people here who are very knowledgeable! I am not 100% but I seem to recall you being one of those brother, and this is very true.

 

[DangerDave]

There are definitely a lot of people here who are very knowledgeable! I am not 100% but I seem to recall you being one of those brother, and this is very true.

Thanks man. I know a little but will be the first to say I don't know enough. I constantly ask questions to my circle of friends that are serious competitors, my coach, and others that have been doing this longer. I hear their experiences and read lots of studies and books. If there is one thing I know... There are more fukin idiots out there than geniuses and more BS theories than actual evidence. I find more retarded " Internet gurus" that you will never see a pic of ( I assume they are some fat online certified trainer that tried dbol from legal steroids. C o m and thinks he's a pro). It just boils down to research and testing to see what your body responds too.