I was already training like a beast.. Did a epistane cycle ( havoc ).. Trained even harder, got stronger, trained harder -- Tore both tendons in my forearms 4mm tear!! LOL
Lesson - you get stronger, muscles get bigger, tendons can't keep up with the weights you want to lift !
If you are mega dosing it - yes get serm.
If not, you will be fine with OTC PCT
I had a heart attack and died after my first dosage. my wife had to cut the lamp cord, split the wires, and jump start my heart back up.
second dosage I was prepared, I had a syringe filled with double dose of pre workout to act as adrenaline, so when it happens, she can just jam the needle into my chest, an kick start it with some NO Explode. lamps are expensive bro.
I took ergopharm 1 ad years ago. I knew nothing about ph or ds. A buddy of mine said give me $30 and I will get us soon good ****. So about 2 weeks in my balls felt like they were on fire. I quit cold turkey. No pct of any sort. I got depressed, no sex drive, I didn't even want to look at a woman. My crank was a limp noodle. After 6 weeks it all had passed and I was back to normal. I was days shy of going to the dr. I had no idea what was wrong . Now I know better I shut my nuts off hard. It was a bad ride lol
1-AD loved it @ recommended dose. 6oxo for PCT of course! 15 easy pounds. I was only a few months out of basic training and bigger than most of my new unit.
SD. Reaaally loved it. Pumps, weight gain, aggression. Mexican Nolva at who knows what dose. Not adequate. Sexual sides for a few weeks.
Epistane after a break from serious training. No sides. Fantastic strength gains. I still don't curl today what I did on that stuff. Leaned out so well I've never been leaner with that much muscle. First experience with terrible emotional side effects of Clomid.