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    Is my family doc an idiot?took hdrol never felt the same.


    Okay I took my first prohormone (Hdrol) a year ago to this day. I preloaded hawthron berry, and cycle super cycle. I took 50mg's the first week and then 75 the rest of the time. The cycle only lasted 15 days because I broke my foot. I had amazing gains (15lbs). Everyone was complementing me. But after I quit the prohormone I never felt the same. I never took a SERM regretfully. I was only 19 when I took it to. My cousin convinced me. My PCT was DPOL and AI post cycle support. I was young stupid and stupid. I took the advice of the salesman at the supplement store.


    Anyways I haven't felt the same since then. It's been a year literally. Decreased interest in sex is definitly noticable. Before the hormones I could sit there and get a boner just thinking about sex. I'm irritable, I seem depressed, I have mood swings, I feel great one second then want to kill my self the next (Overstatement). I've been so tired to. Fatigue like crazy. I could sleep all day if I wanted.


    So I wised up and finally made an appointment with my family doctor with the help of my mother. I was honest with everything thinking he would want to get my hormone levels such as T and Estrogren checked. He told me some outrageous ****. Like after taking the prohormone my body would have evened it's self out within TWO DAYS!? Get real. I clearly said this all started as soon as I quit taking the prohormone. What the ****. You know what he prescribed me? Lexapro, it's used to treat depression and anxiety. He wants me to take it for 30 days and then come back.


    Now there are some things I've decided to supplement on my own for overal hormone imbalance. Fish oil, Vitamin D, and two 500 mg's of maca a day. Now when I was jelqing my libido was slowly rising and I'm continuing that once this yeast infection passes.


    But seriously, he dismissed that I took a supplement that creates synthetic testosterone and shuts down my naturual production as the problem. My mom clearly belives in him and thinks this is all in my head. I'm going on my OWN to get my own blood work done now without my insurance. The family doctor said to take the lexapro for 30 days and if nothing changes, he'll send me to a hormone specialist.


    Yes I know I was dumb for taking a prohormone, but **** that salesman who acted like I'll be fine without the SERM. What's your thoughts on this. I'm almost going to just act like I've takin the lexapro so the hormone specialist will be covered by insurance.


    Review of what side effects I have.


    Loss of interest in sex(Still interested, just not as much)


    Slight hairloss on my crown


    Irritabliity


    Depression


    Mood swings


    Fatigue

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    Man , I've done the single compounds and did the OTC post cycles and yeah I didn't keep my gains and I was pretty lethargic for a little while . It definetly wasn't a whole month but I felt the lack of LH and whatnot for at least a week or so . But at the same time idk if taking a PH makes that much of a difference if you take it before your 21 because that's how old I was when I took mine and I've been takig test boosters since I was 16 . My best guess is that your body just wasn't ready for it maybe because on the Hdrol cycle I was doing 50mg a day and I didn't take any post cycle what so ever . But just so you , I've read on forums that prohormones shut you down a lot harder than the actual gear . So I would wait and research for at least a year or two and really read up on how much prohormones are worse than steroids , and that's why people take pHs because there easier to get and they market makes it seen like it doesn't convert into as high of a hormone level as the real deal , but it's worse because your body is making itself produce hormones that your body isn't use to with out any source of testosterone running . I'm just finding this **** out for myself man so no hard feelings. I'm on a post cycle right now and could get a hold of the clom and Nolva , but I'm just doing what I've got and eating hard taking those vitamins .
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    It's in your head. Hdrol is quite mild, and an OTC PCT can do the job 99% of the time....

    Edit: obviously a SERM is better, but many on here have ran OTC PCT with hdrol
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    And I would say a lot of the side affects people report are more just in there head because there peranoid . I know that's how it is for me , like my most recent cycle the new spawn I felt overal just fine and full of energy when I stayed hydrated and on top of the supports, but once in a while I would think about the high pressure and start stressing and that just makes it worse probably . It just scary feeling that hormone conversion in your body . You definitely feel the imbalance for sure ...
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    Sometimes I wonder if posts like this are real. Like, is this a real person with a legitimate problem, or is this like those chain posts on Facebook where people are warning you of some phony **** that isn't really happening and then the stupid people believe it because they'll believe everything and so they share it with everyone they know...

    Seriously, 15 days of Halodrol screwed you up permanently? Really? And you were up *15* pounds at the time? Fifteen days of Halodrol at a moderate dose had you up 15 pounds?

    Listen - if this is for real, you need to see an endocrinologist because your symptoms sound like they're clearly hormone-related. I think the idea of not taking the anti-depressant but telling your PCP you did is the best course of action, because you need to see that hormone specialist but you shouldn't be medicating unnecessarily, and that Lexapro is unnecessary.

    Honestly, your PCP is right when he says that your body will right itself quickly from a short run of a mild anabolic at a moderate dose. Maybe not two days, but you should've recovered on your own. If this is for real then you're just really unlucky. Ninety-nine out of 100 guys would be fine following the exact same scenario.

    I still think this is more likely than not a BS story. But good luck.
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    But yeah the single compounds didn't really stress me tho . You just have to push your self a little harder to workout because of the slight lethargy . I drank coconut water everyday throughout my spawn and I would be down to lift after working an 8 hour day after some coco agua
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodambomb View Post
    But just so you , I've read on forums that prohormones shut you down a lot harder than the actual gear .
    False.
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    Wait... 15lbs in only 15 days?! Am I the only one who read that
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    It's true. It was halo 25 by lgi if that helps at all. And maybe not 15 but definitly 10. This isn't a troll. I'm not trolling at all. I'm not exagerating. I'm giving you my honesty. I'm thinking maybe I was a late bloomer when it came to puberty, yeah I got horny as **** and got pubes. But after this compound I grew chest hair rapidly and my back acne blew out. My facial hair also thickened. I'm not lying guys. Come on. Cut me some slack. I'm worried here. Seriously.
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    troll?
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    Op and yodambomb have no business doing any ph/ds/aas. This is the most ridiculous thread. Dip**** trolls for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snrub View Post
    It's true. It was halo 25 by lgi if that helps at all. And maybe not 15 but definitly 10. This isn't a troll. I'm not trolling at all. I'm not exagerating. I'm giving you my honesty. I'm thinking maybe I was a late bloomer when it came to puberty, yeah I got horny as **** and got pubes. But after this compound I grew chest hair rapidly and my back acne blew out. My facial hair also thickened. I'm not lying guys. Come on. Cut me some slack. I'm worried here. Seriously.
    The compound barely kicked in at 15 days.... are you sure you werent using advanced folical matrix by teen wolf labs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    Wait... 15lbs in only 15 days?! Am I the only one who read that
    Maybe it had other stuff besides hdrol in it? Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodambomb View Post
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    I've read on forums that prohormones shut you down a lot harder than the actual gear .

    but it's worse because your body is making itself produce hormones that your body isn't use to with out any source of testosterone running .
    Oh boy......
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    This thread is freakin awesome.
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    I'm ordering freakin Hdrol right now! 15 lbs and FULLY shutdown at 2 weeks!?
    Hope my pubes don't fall out and my LH doesn't hurt me.
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    Maybe you're just a headcase...??? Either way you have no business taking PH/DS and neither does your buddy Yodabomb. Two kids propping each other up with junk science and dangerous lack of knowledge. Just my 2 cents.
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    Damn I'm just getting clowned left and right lol
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    I don't get what I'm so off about . I've done plenty of cycles and know what it's like . It's not that bad but it's not that good tho at the same time . And it does carry potential risks , everyone knows that ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodambomb View Post
    I don't get what I'm so off about . I've done plenty of cycles and know what it's like . It's not that bad but it's not that good tho at the same time . And it does carry potential risks , everyone knows that ..
    The best thing to do is laugh with us, lol...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodambomb View Post
    Damn I'm just getting clowned left and right lol
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    Guys this was a year ago. Please end the stupid ass flaming. I still plan on getting my bloods checked by labcorp. It doesn't matter really what I gained but my weight did sky rocket and I did gain 10 to 15 pounds. Maybe I was more sensitive to others? Also the first dose I took of it made me feel like ****. It gave me headaches daily for the first 15 days and I was happy to end it. I had a **** ton of fatigue while on cycle to. I still have the bottle the guy sold to us at the supplement store. Shouldn't you guys be pissed of a sales person tells you your fine without a SERM? And told some 19 year old kids this is in the same category of creatine? I admit I was stupid. But end the flaming. It's not needed here. I was hoping to recieve mature advice, from people who have takin them. Not a bunch of bodybuilding.com trolls.
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    Calm down.... its mostly sarcasm, live and learn... next time look into lygers blood, it doesnt get the credit it deserves
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    Quote Originally Posted by snrub View Post
    Guys this was a year ago. Please end the stupid ass flaming. I still plan on getting my bloods checked by labcorp. It doesn't matter really what I gained but my weight did sky rocket and I did gain 10 to 15 pounds. Maybe I was more sensitive to others? Also the first dose I took of it made me feel like ****. It gave me headaches daily for the first 15 days and I was happy to end it. I had a **** ton of fatigue while on cycle to. I still have the bottle the guy sold to us at the supplement store. Shouldn't you guys be pissed of a sales person tells you your fine without a SERM? And told some 19 year old kids this is in the same category of creatine? I admit I was stupid. But end the flaming. It's not needed here. I was hoping to recieve mature advice, from people who have takin them. Not a bunch of bodybuilding.com trolls.
    Well, 15 days of Hdrol doesnt typically cause any long term shutdown. If anything, the temporary suppression brought on by Hdrol revealed and exacerbated a much bigger issue regarding ur endocrine system. Even the most unlucky individual should easily be able to handle the circumstances u r telling us.

    I'd stop blaming the hdrol as the single culprit and I'd start entertaining the idea that I may have other issues not directly related to Hdrol that is causing the long term hormonal imbalances.

    Labcorp tests is a good start but should not be considered the only step to take. Even if u come back with low T, it doesnt mean Clomid therapy is the answer.
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    Great thread!
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    they all tell you you'll be fine w/o a serm at the supplement shops, because they don't sell serms but they do sell otc pct products. that's just how it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snrub View Post
    Guys this was a year ago. Please end the stupid ass flaming. I still plan on getting my bloods checked by labcorp. It doesn't matter really what I gained but my weight did sky rocket and I did gain 10 to 15 pounds. Maybe I was more sensitive to others? Also the first dose I took of it made me feel like ****. It gave me headaches daily for the first 15 days and I was happy to end it. I had a **** ton of fatigue while on cycle to. I still have the bottle the guy sold to us at the supplement store. Shouldn't you guys be pissed of a sales person tells you your fine without a SERM? And told some 19 year old kids this is in the same category of creatine? I admit I was stupid. But end the flaming. It's not needed here. I was hoping to recieve mature advice, from people who have takin them. Not a bunch of bodybuilding.com trolls.
    We do hate those supplement shop guys who sell legal juice to guys like you, because this kind of scenario is what gets the attention of the regulatory bodies and ruins it for the rest of us. But we see these threads all the time and it gets really old, and the only way to not get aggravated is to laugh at it. All that said and despite the ribbing, you've still gotten the advice that you need. Go re-read my first reply to this thread. The advice you need is in there.
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    Don't stress it man , most people on here have years of expirence on prohormones and test . Most people on here told me pretty similar feedback like I was clueless and what not and that I shouldn't be doing em . I agree that the prohormones aren't like super horrible if you keep it to a single compound at an appropriate dose but it your right tho about it making yiu feel lethargic and lacking energy while your on it , that's why you have to stay as healthy on them as you can I learned . Even then if your not staying hydrated enough you'll still feel unenergetic . As in the shut down , idk I just took a triple stack and feeling just fine with my OTC but at the same time it's only been two days but from my expierence it doesn't feel like prohormones shut you down completely . It seems like just enough to where you'll lose your gains without a PCT or at least eating a lot ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodambomb View Post
    Don't stress it man , most people on here have years of expirence on prohormones and test . Most people on here told me pretty similar feedback like I was clueless and what not and that I shouldn't be doing em..
    I caution you with advice you get on boards. Many of the recommendations you see come from ppl that have never ran a cycle and/or they are just regurgitating information posted by others. I see it all the time, person comes on here asking a ton of silly questions and the next week they are experts advising others. Point of all that is do your own research before putting these substances in your body. You will be better prepared that way
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    a triple stack with otc? that's incredibly foolish
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    I actually just did that your right . I saw some **** on here about how people were dissing people who didn't run test with pHs and I thought that ment that you were supposed to basically . And I wrote a forum and made an ass outta myself for that same exact reason , for trying to educate people on something that I know very little about ...
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    Yeah I know that wasted hella money by not having the SERM . I'm pretty upset and I'm still tryna one but I've still kept on the same size so far and still eating like a beast . So I'll just prey that I didnt waste a stupid amount of money ...
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    Not everyone responds to hormones... try clicking your heels 3 times after each dose
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    If you really think there is something wrong, see a specialist. There is sticky thread about cheap bloodwork without insurance. You can go that route if you want, however you should really talk to a specialist to see exactly what specific tests you should get.
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    why no serm? i mean i am staring at an ad for a research company that sells serms as i type this.
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    Are you serious ??!! How reliable are those companies and how quick do they ship the stuff ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodambomb View Post
    Yeah I know that wasted hella money by not having the SERM . I'm pretty upset and I'm still tryna one but I've still kept on the same size so far and still eating like a beast . So I'll just prey that I didnt waste a stupid amount of money ...
    Google legit research chemicals. Find one that has the least negative feedback. Order some nolva, clomid, or torem TODAY. The one I uses only allows 2 day shipping so it could be there by Saturday.My concern wouldn't be losing my gains or $$ at this point. My concern would be long term hpta function. Ex: getting a hard-on at 35 or 40, high bf%, depression, fatigue, libido, CV function, etc...
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    So if I ordered it today and just used the **** that I have In the meantime will you think that I'll lose all my gains probably or just possibly . Like I said I'm still eating and lifting like I was on the cycle .
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    And how would I consume Nolva in a powdered form or does it always need to be in pill or liquid form .?
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    How do you consume it in powdered form ? Is it more likely to be real if it's in powdered or liquid form or no ?
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