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    Help me with GW-501516


    I'm thinking of getting GW and just want somebody to tell me about their experiences with it?

    I'm think of dose it 10mg ed split in 2 for the endurance and fat loss abilities, sounds about right right?

    Thanks for any input

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    Cancer stuff stay clear!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    Cancer stuff stay clear!!!!!
    I read about that but it looked like that only happened when they where over dosing?
    Staying in a reasonable dose for 6-8 week shouldn't be a problem, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysfirst View Post
    I read about that but it looked like that only happened when they where over dosing? Staying in a reasonable dose for 6-8 week shouldn't be a problem, right?
    Just do 10 mg
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    I ran Gw pretty high man. I noticed a really nice flow of energy in the gym. After day 16 I was benching my max 6 times ( I was also taking sarms along with it). I noticed I started getting more of a tolerance to it the more I increased the dose. But I stopped in 3/4 the way through my cycle. Really good stuff here man if you got it from the right company.
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    I've had a lot of great experiences with GW. WADA is doing everything they can to keep athletes away from it because it works well. Claims of cancer in rats occurred at ridiculously high dosages (equivalent to 500-1000mg ED for a 200lb male over a long period of time). If you tried overdosing any OTC supplement at your local walgreens this way and I guarantee the outcome will be horrible. Human trials showed zero signs of cancer.

    The recommended dosage for GW is 10-20mg ED for 8-12 weeks. That's the sweet spot. You'll see increased endurance, less rest period between sets in the gym, and significant fat loss
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymichael View Post
    I've had a lot of great experiences with GW. WADA is doing everything they can to keep athletes away from it because it works well. Claims of cancer in rats occurred at ridiculously high dosages (equivalent to 500-1000mg ED for a 200lb male over a long period of time). If you tried overdosing any OTC supplement at your local walgreens this way and I guarantee the outcome will be horrible. Human trials showed zero signs of cancer.

    The recommended dosage for GW is 10-20mg ED for 8-12 weeks. That's the sweet spot. You'll see increased endurance, less rest period between sets in the gym, and significant fat loss
    Thanks for the info, I think I order tonight
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymichael View Post
    I've had a lot of great experiences with GW. WADA is doing everything they can to keep athletes away from it because it works well. Claims of cancer in rats occurred at ridiculously high dosages (equivalent to 500-1000mg ED for a 200lb male over a long period of time). If you tried overdosing any OTC supplement at your local walgreens this way and I guarantee the outcome will be horrible. Human trials showed zero signs of cancer. The recommended dosage for GW is 10-20mg ED for 8-12 weeks. That's the sweet spot. You'll see increased endurance, less rest period between sets in the gym, and significant fat loss
    True that
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    http://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recall...33605a-eng.php

    All clinical development of GW501516 was stopped when toxicities, including various cancers, were discovered following routine, long term animal studies. The long-term effects of GW501516 in humans are unknown.
    Canadians are advised not to use this product under any circumstances and should consult with a health care professional if they have concerns about their health related to its use.
    GW501516 is not approved for use in humans. GSK does not manufacture or authorize its sale.
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    Even wada warned athletes not to take this from a health standpoint.This is unique.The characteristic for a cancerogen is that there is no safe dose!
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    Everything causes cancer these days. Hell, even the water in California will give you cancer. With the amount of chemicals we're pumping in our bodies all day, every day, cancer is the least of my worries.

    Die young and make a pretty corpse, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    Cancer stuff stay clear!!!!!
    This came about at mega high doses for an extremely long period of time.

    Still it may be worth noting if you have a family history of cancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaikara View Post
    Everything causes cancer these days. Hell, even the water in California will give you cancer. With the amount of chemicals we're pumping in our bodies all day, every day, cancer is the least of my worries.

    Die young and make a pretty corpse, right?
    I deffently do not want to die that's for sure but it looks like it's no human test that shows that it will cause cancer with "regular" doses in a short cycle? If you mega dose over a long period of time you most likely die from any PED...
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    All valid points, but HGH is known to accelerate cancer cell growth in humans, yet this is never even given a second look. GW has done nothing of the sort in humans so claiming that it does really holds no ground if we are basing claims on science. WADA even admitted that human trials showed no signs of cancer. The rat studies are very outdated and were extremely overdosed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymichael View Post
    All valid points, but HGH is known to accelerate cancer cell growth in humans, yet this is never even given a second look. GW has done nothing of the sort in humans so claiming that it does really holds no ground if we are basing claims on science. WADA even admitted that human trials showed no signs of cancer. The rat studies are very outdated and were extremely overdosed.
    How many cycles have you done and what length&dose?
    I ordered mine last night so this will be my first cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post
    steroids can accelerate the growth of cancer also. the thing to worry about is whether or not GW CAUSES cancer. i dont think anyone can say for sure right now. it may have a cumulative effect over months or years of use similar to tobacco or other carcinogens.
    That's interesting because I thought cancer patients who were wasting from chemo were sometimes given steroids
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    I have ran gw cycles for the past 2 years... It is the one thing that will truly maximize ANY cycle that you run... the increase in endurance alone is remarkable... when you combine this with eq, the results are unreal... you could give forest gump a run for his money in a distance run... the beauty of gw is that it MELTS fat but is non catabolic so has the ability to still gain muscle while melting fat... It gives such a quick recovery in between sets while you are lifting and allows you to perform at the highest of levels... you are continuously increasing your vo2max, thus allowing more output, which increases gains to the highest magnitude... I have been studying and using sarms for years... I realize gw is technically a PPAR receptor agonist however it is often grouped with sarms and i have put in serious time and studies on this... It is the real deal...
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    Dylan, you're the company rep, so your opinion should be taken with a grain of salt...You also push hard N2guard and HCGenerate which are overpriced mediocre products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n87 View Post
    Dylan, you're the company rep, so your opinion should be taken with a grain of salt...You also push hard N2guard and HCGenerate which are overpriced mediocre products.
    Which guy is Dylan?
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    I am considering adding gw to an epi run iam on now. I have done extensive reading on gw and the carcinogenic effects are debatable. While some studies indicate its carcinogenic effect, they have notable issues with the dose administration and the length of application. Where as some of the literature that refutes its carcinogenic effect are largely theory based regarding receptor activity in the gut. I think the bottom line is it will be a personal choice on what risk your comfortable assuming. There are numerous logs on gw, none of which I have read that include any notable sides.
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    Thw cancer thing has totallly been debunked. The study was involving rats and the amount given was about 500x more then the recommended dosage. So essentially, it would be like taking about 2000mg everyday. The recommended dosage is 20mg day.
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    You really want to shed some weight... GW will def do it
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjfs87 View Post
    I am considering adding gw to an epi run iam on now. I have done extensive reading on gw and the carcinogenic effects are debatable. While some studies indicate its carcinogenic effect, they have notable issues with the dose administration and the length of application. Where as some of the literature that refutes its carcinogenic effect are largely theory based regarding receptor activity in the gut. I think the bottom line is it will be a personal choice on what risk your comfortable assuming. There are numerous logs on gw, none of which I have read that include any notable sides.
    Well said. I've ran GW 4 times and I monitor my blood work and sides very closely. The misconceptions surrounding it are comparable to the way everyone thinks that steroid use is a death sentence. Rumors have been blown way out of proportion surrounding it. Ironically, I see guys on every steroid board propose anadrol cycles each day yet there is irrefutable data on its ability to cause liver cancer. No one ever points this out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymichael View Post
    Well said. I've ran GW 4 times and I monitor my blood work and sides very closely. The misconceptions surrounding it are comparable to the way everyone thinks that steroid use is a death sentence. Rumors have been blown way out of proportion surrounding it. Ironically, I see guys on every steroid board propose anadrol cycles each day yet there is irrefutable data on its ability to cause liver cancer. No one ever points this out...
    I agree bro.. if you really do your research, you find out that GW positively impacts your lipid profiles which is a plus plus in my book. And most importantly, the endurance aspect is absolutely amazing
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinytony View Post
    Which guy is Dylan?
    24k. Dylan Gemelli banned from this board.
    Jaymichael and alphamilitant made their way to this board too. Slightly different names. Let me see jaybraken and wolfpackalpha as they known in elitefitness, ...
    Look at their profile, joined the board in January 2014...
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    Quote Originally Posted by n87 View Post
    24k. Dylan Gemelli banned from this board.
    Jaymichael and alphamilitant made their way to this board too. Slightly different names. Let me see jaybraken and wolfpackalpha as they known in elitefitness, ...
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    I'd like to try GW with ghrp-2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fzisn1 View Post
    I'd like to try GW with ghrp-2
    I have no knowledge of peptides.. but they have definitely peeked my interest as of late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMilitant View Post
    I have no knowledge of peptides.. but they have definitely peeked my interest as of late.
    I like them for PCT and bridging. They can be ran lengthily. I keep my doses low and go for 2 shots daily... 1 first thing and last thing... Mainly for recovery. I know you can go way higher but I have noticed great results with low doses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fzisn1 View Post
    I like them for PCT and bridging. They can be ran lengthily. I keep my doses low and go for 2 shots daily... 1 first thing and last thing... Mainly for recovery. I know you can go way higher but I have noticed great results with low doses.
    Ill have to get some example layouts from you bro. Get my peptide game up
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMilitant View Post
    Ill have to get some example layouts from you bro. Get my peptide game up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Zasa View Post
    I have ran GW and I dropped my body fat from 13% to 10.5% in 2 months at 20mg a day.

    they did a study in Australia on humans and there was zero cancer shown. the rat study like someone posted was when they gave them a crazy amount of the compound.

    and to the other guy cortico steroids and anabolic steroids are two different things.
    I had a Professor who was the say all and end all in exercise physiology so I would discuss compounds, techniques and in depth exercise physiology with him. I asked him about GW and he came back and talked about the cancer risks. I threw mine out that day.

    I know he is without any question the best professor in the field that I ever met but this is the one thing he was wrong about.

    I got into a debate with guys who were pushing the subject and I had to submit. I looked at all of the studies I could possibly find and by the end I wished I didn't throw mine out in march. The only argument that can be made against it is that no longitudinal studies have been done on it.... I will incorporate it into every PCT I run. You heard it here folks, this time next year bros will get flamed for not using GW in Tren cycles to combat the Tren sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Zasa View Post
    I have ran GW and I dropped my body fat from 13% to 10.5% in 2 months at 20mg a day.

    they did a study in Australia on humans and there was zero cancer shown. the rat study like someone posted was when they gave them a crazy amount of the compound.

    and to the other guy cortico steroids and anabolic steroids are two different things.
    How long are rats living and how long humans?Cancer could show up later in lifetime
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    How long are rats living and how long humans?Cancer could show up later in lifetime
    This is an odd statement that has zero science behind it. It's like people want to believe it causes cancer simply because they're regurgitating something someone else said. I've already presented the facts but you're purposely refusing to acknowledge them. It doesn't cause cancer in humans. It never has. They overdosed rats in an outdated study and killed them. How is that so hard to believe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Zasa View Post
    so if cancer shows up i'm sure it was GW that was the culprit in a person and not years of poor lifestyle, smoking, drinking, etc. just like how steroids are blamed for death with zyzz.. never mind he was abusing stims, diuretics, and was de-hydrating himself in sauna's without proper hydration. but lets blame his death on steroids cause we are brainwashed
    ^+++++1,000,000 bro. Don't forget Lyle Alzedo..... The self-diagnosed steroid victim who died from being a Raider and all the jack daniels, cocaine and random prostitutes that come with it. Or let's talk about Tyler Hooton from Plano, Texas whose psychologist, not psychiatrist so no pharm training, pulled him off test mid cycle with no PCT and put him on an SSRI. Hooton's dad by the way was the posterboy for the congressional Waxman baseball hearings...
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    Quote Originally Posted by n87 View Post
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    Look at their profile, joined the board in January 2014...
    Dylan is like 95% of the reason I don't go to elite anymore. Plus the fact that they are so biased that everyone tells everyone BS to get them to buy products. Not to mention giving advice on YouTube about not doing steroids unless you are low bodyfat. Well, I could maintain 6% all natty if I was as scrawny as him.
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    Yeah something like 80 messages from seeming members on there all touting there junk. In like just a few months. They want to help to learn how to really cycle the smart way and all kinds of garbage
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    You guys want to talk about elite or GW?
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