- 01-12-2014, 12:14 AM
A little unsure where to post this .... what can/do women take (in the way of AAS, PH, etc.) for gaining muscle mass? It seems that if women take a steroid then it's anavar for cutting. I'm just interested in gaining muscle mass right now ... I've been working out for the past 4-5 years, and am starting to get a little frustrated with the slowness of the process of getting 'buff'. So I decided that I'm gonna start down that long path of researching what supplements women can take to see if it might be something for me or not. Thanks!
- 01-12-2014, 02:26 AM
Anavar was created for women. Although its usually used for cutting, diet dictates the path of the cycle. Not the compound itself
Bulk with anavar before doing anything else
- 01-12-2014, 03:03 AM
Anavar was created for women? Lol, who told you that? Lmao
01-12-2014, 08:24 AM
I'm a big fan of Var and have loved my source for years, but even the best Var doesn't bulk bro. Not in the least.
1 gram of test a week on the other hand.....that'll give you moon face in two weeks. Bulk that.
Disclaimer : 1 gram of test of week is mentioned only for vets weighing over 260 lbs at 9% body fat.....that is a dangerous dose for us mere mortals.
01-12-2014, 08:55 AM
If by bulk you mean blowing up all big, dirty and bloaty, then there are better compounds around (Dbol etc). If by bulk you purely mean increase lean muscle mass, then this can be done with var as it is still an AAS.
Diet will generally dictate results whatever you're doing.
01-12-2014, 09:15 AM
Bulking isn't a wet, dirty thing and doesn't have to be (and shouldn't be).
The purpose of having the 2 terms is to comment on things like the amount of glycogen held when on a substance, the endurance you get, the recovery, and the overall addition of muscle (lean or otherwise) and fat [and the ratio between the two as a function of time].
A "Lean" bulk is nothing more than adding real muscle whereby the users actual muscles mass increased and when off cycle and at normal levels of hormones and glycogen that same muscle now has more fibers to it and is larger. Whatever is gained in that measure is typically called an increase in "lean muscle mass"
So what I'm telling you is there are a lot of substances that will add more lean mass with lower dosages over a shorter amount of time, but it will be accompanied with glycogen and probably some fat.
Anavar is good at adding very, very little mass, but also adds little to no fat.
Trying to convice anybody that Anavar is bulking seems silly. when there are a lot of substance that fit that definition perfectly. Perfectly. Trying to make Anaver a bulk is square peg, round hole metality.
Tren will shred more fat off you than Var and will put more "lean" mass on you. Tren is a bulker (along with other things). Anavar is not.
Read up and admit when you are a little off base. It is okay to be wrong. We all learn that way.
01-12-2014, 09:18 AM
I agree with poster above. For men bulk not so much. Women though yes you can build some nice muscle while taking var. dose depends on you I would start around 10mg twice a day. Personally my wife runs 20mg a day that's what works for here. You eat good, work hard you will be happy.
01-12-2014, 09:20 AM
01-12-2014, 09:26 AM
Touché and good reply, other than the disagree with fact bit. But the original poster was female, which kind of slims her options down a little. Low dose var with the right diet could help her achieve what she's looking for.
01-12-2014, 09:27 AM
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01-12-2014, 09:34 AM
01-12-2014, 09:35 AM
01-12-2014, 11:00 AM
Var is a good compound for woman at low doses. I just didn't see anybody gaining from reading that Var was a bulking compound. It isn't.
Women can't take the really good bulking compounds so considering that, perhaps Var is one of the better "bulks" for women if the chioces are A) Nothing or B) 10 mg of Var ED
Obviously B is the winner winner chicken dinner, no?
01-12-2014, 11:06 AM
01-12-2014, 02:11 PM
Thanks for all the replies. So from what I've been reading (here and in other threads), anavar could help women bulk, but does little for men in general. What kind of mass gains can women typically expect?
What else is there that women could take relatively safely?
(Yea, I'm female, just noticed that my profile made me out as male (and also as a drinker and a smoker???))
01-12-2014, 02:18 PM
01-12-2014, 02:18 PM
Var does indeed bulk. Diet dictates muscular gain. Not huge doses of drugs. It's not explosive bulk like 100 mg dbol paired with 50mg drol and 500mg deca and 1k test but it'll put nice clean muscle on.
I'm just a dude chasing a dream
01-12-2014, 04:06 PM
01-12-2014, 05:07 PM
01-12-2014, 05:20 PM
01-12-2014, 07:17 PM
you even got me to go back and research just to make sure.
but I see what you mean. what you're saying is it's such a weak androgen, it's suited well for women, unlike trenbolone.
01-12-2014, 07:37 PM
I can buy locally at my gym.
Anavar never has and never will be a "bulking" compound. I can't believe how hard you guys are pressing this idea.
I wasn't suggesting she take any test, but I think you would have to be able to read and comprehend well enough to understand that.
I'm just confused to your abrasive nature attacking a man after a misunderstanding and an apology.
High school was over a long time ago, now will you stop your freaking bitching.
Sorry Thighgirl, this guy is just a loser.
01-12-2014, 09:27 PM
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01-13-2014, 12:07 AM
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01-13-2014, 10:46 AM
I still find it hilarious on this board that everyone is so hyped to give advice on steroid and supplement intake and never bother to ask about current diet and workout. There really is little reason that a female cannot achieve good muscle mass and strength with proper diet and workout. Just because someone is working out 4-5 years means nothing.
01-13-2014, 11:33 AM
Good diet + good training program Natty will never compare good diet / training program + aas.
Male or female.
01-13-2014, 11:42 AM
Second. Are you interested in competition? Cause if you're into figure...var wil be fine. Bodybuilding however. Your going to have to go the testosterone route. Sorry but you won't get big enough with var for competition.
if not for competition then var or tbol/hdrol. Maybe primo/winstrol.
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01-13-2014, 11:46 AM
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01-13-2014, 12:52 PM
01-13-2014, 01:05 PM
Originally Posted by kisaj
01-13-2014, 01:12 PM
No where in my post did I imply or compare anything like that. I stated that we don't know her workout or diet and that there is little or no reason that a female cannot gain good muscle mass from that alone. We know nothing about the OP and people are debating on the best AAS she should take.
01-13-2014, 01:24 PM
Being a female, ur gonna have to find more patience than us guys. Your hormones arent geared toward rapid muscle and strength gains. So, how much patience do u have? 4 weeks? 3 months? 6 months? A year?
For my wife (whose success I feel responsible for), noticeable differences come 6 months at a time. She is natty.
Start making changes now to ur diet to get u moving in the right direction. U need two different measuring tools: the scale and measuring tape. These two together will identify progress when the eyes cant. Since ur gains will be slow, you'll need that encouragement. Diet and consistency are most important with the exercise routine being the least important. Things dont start picking up for most folks til they get 6-8 years into their training habits. This of course applies to those that r serious, consistent and dedicated. So u have time. Dont fall into the "hype of hurry". Hastiness leads to bad choices and a lack of discipline. Besides, and I speak from a strong authoritative experience on this, steroid gains will not stick without a dang good diet and consistency before hand. Figure out what diet protocol gives u steady progress (however slow it may be) and if you still decide the AAS route, you'll see incredible gains that will likely be retainable.
01-13-2014, 01:27 PM
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