- 01-08-2014, 09:38 PM
What's up guys , I'm a new member and currently an 18 year old who seeks the use of a prohormone. I've been training, supplementing, and prepping my meals for about a year now and I have gained a lot from what I have started , 125-130 beginning of junior year. I am currently at a solid 170. I would like to jump to 190. I have had friends who have used prohormones , but I was unable to get information from them. The only company I have looked into so far , is "AAR" and among their products I am interested in purchasing "Androgeddon" or "Genetic Psycho" before I go into what they are , the conflict I have before hand , is that If I were to decide on taking prphormones , I would like to decrease the side effects people usually talk about like gyno, lactating, acne, etc.
The dilemma I would love to be assisted with is which prohormone should I cycle. For your information , I am new to prohormones and I am looking forward to cycling for my first time along side supplementing and continuing to prep my meals.
I have two options that are both by "AAR"
Option 1 "Androgeddon"
Androgeddon Contains and is 60 capsules. 1 serving is equivalent to 1 pill and if I were to take it I would take 2 servings a day , which would mean I would cycle it for 4 weeks.
(ESTROGEN-PROLACTIN CONTROL COMPLEX)
-6 BROMOANDROSTENEDIONE- 50mgs- (ESTROGEN CONTROL AGENT)
-L-3,4-DIHYDROXYPHENYLALANINE- 165mgs- (PROLACTIN CONTROL AGENT)
BIO-SORB (ABSORPTION / TIME RELEASE MATRIX)
Option 2 "Genetic Psycho"
60 capsules as well and 1 pill is 1 serving. If I do decide on this one then I would take two servings a day for 4 weeks.
Genetic psycho contains:
-2,3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallo cholan-17b-ol- 20mgs
BIO-SORB (ABSORPTION / TIME RELEASE MATRIX)
My questions I would like help with is :
Which prohormone should I take out of my two choices ? And what would you recommend me from your personal experience ?
Do I need a "PCT" or "OCT"? While taking either one of these prohormones ?
- 01-08-2014, 09:40 PM
01-08-2014, 09:47 PM
I commend you and your gains over the last year... but your way too young bro. You have at least 5 to 6 years of development of your endocrine system. You've made these gains all natural...stick it out for a while man. I know the feeling of wanting to gain as much as you can as quick as you can but the risks your taking are not nearly worth the gains.
In the long run your going to do what you want but please consider the possibility of permanently messing up yourself. And despite your gains within the last year..why throw away all these years of natural test? Just my 2c...I'm sure I won't be the only one to tell you that your too young.
01-08-2014, 09:49 PM
Absolutely not. That would be a very very very poor decision. You're taking the easy way out.
1) Too young
2) You must be over 21 years of age to post in Anabolics anyways
I'd urge you to partake in the training and diet forums, and there will be loads of people who would be eager to help you.
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01-08-2014, 09:51 PM
Go with option 3. That would be creatnine & zma, and get strong naturally. You don't need anything anabolic at your age.
01-08-2014, 09:58 PM
01-08-2014, 10:08 PM
Dude you gained 40 lbs in a year. Old bastards like me can't do that on a gram of test unless 30lbs is fat. Take creatine glutamine and preworkouts. The stuff you listed isn't pro hormones. They're steroids. You don't need that stuff at 18.
I'm just a dude chasing a dream
01-08-2014, 10:13 PM
YOu are too young. ANd that is the worst PH on the face of the earth. Whoever makes it is irresponsible as ****.
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01-08-2014, 10:15 PM
That and those look like some nasty prohormones. If your worried about gyno or acne or your balls do not take those.
01-08-2014, 10:35 PM
01-08-2014, 10:45 PM
01-08-2014, 10:47 PM
lifting heavy along with zma will increase test levels on is own. like everyone else said your too young bro. please take our advice
01-08-2014, 11:49 PM
Oh dear. On a slightly different not I would not recommend any of the stacks you mention in Op as a first cycle. If you are adamant about running a PH cycle pick a single compound with mild sides.
Epistane, Hdrol, Triumphalis, or mecha are good options.
But I have to agree with others... Wait wait wait. You will do what you want. But it's sound advice. With good reason. Wait.
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01-08-2014, 11:50 PM
Alright guys , thanks so much. I'll save my money and continue to push on naturally!! This forum is definitely the most reliable.
01-09-2014, 12:19 AM
brother this is what you need to get to 190 and this is coming from a national level competitor:
chicken, oats, rice, beef aka FOOD
preworkout supplement for those lagging days, start with something mild ex C4.
and if you can afford it after you buy food get some protein for post workout. the best post workout is food, but good wheys are: gold standard, trutein (my favorite is cinnabon yummy), iso100, and hell cheap bodyfortress! i recommend bodyfortress because its cheap so youre not wasting that teenage money on supps instead of that chicken on sale at your market!
training: did you know arnold trained like a powerlifter at your age? teenagers LOVE to talk about how much they bench! so train heavy and like a powerlifter! your body at that age is a natural steroid so whatever stress you put on it with diet it will grow! when i was just starting a big time powerlifter at my gym gave me a book called "the 5by5 system" i read it like the BIBLE! amazon has it for cheap.
sleep is key too! skip that extra level of COD or that girl who wants you to stay up with her texting.. get your sleep!
so heres your three keys to reaching your goals at your age:
eat big! and when i mean big i mean BIG!
and remember everyone will agree school comes first!
01-09-2014, 10:48 AM
Listen to Mperkins.
I'd also suggest looking at Arachidonic Acid. Its a Fatty Acid (similar to what's in a fish oil capsule). It's been shown to be anabolic (muscle building). X-factor and X-gels are two brands; X-factor costs more, but contains the recommended amount of ARA; X-gels contains slightly less.
01-09-2014, 11:49 AM
At 18 years old, you can gain weight so fast. Push yourself hard in the gym and eat as much protein as you can. The only limit to how fast you can gain weight right now is your work ethic.
01-09-2014, 01:58 PM
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