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    Quote Originally Posted by Deak007 View Post
    I have my pct set up for my current DMZ 3.0 run as PCT 4 from BSL... I have nil a on hand just in case, but it is not MANDATORY that I use it or the cookie I have either...
    Sure it is not mandatory to use a serm but it is preventative measure that you should take. An AI is good for reducing estrogen and lowering your risk of getting gyno but a serm will kick start your boys by ”acting as an antagonist in the hypothalamus and pituitary, increasing testosterone production. While also helping to reduce the risk of gyno” The problem with an AI only pct is that your body will take longer to recover and the longer you go with low test levels the more muscle mass you will lose hence making running a cycle almost counter productive. So IMO a serm is good a serm and an AI is better
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post
    Sure it is not mandatory to use a serm but it is preventative measure that you should take. An AI is good for reducing estrogen and lowering your risk of getting gyno but a serm will kick start your boys by "acting as an antagonist in the hypothalamus and pituitary, increasing testosterone production. While also helping to reduce the risk of gyno" The problem with an AI only pct is that your body will take longer to recover and the longer you go with low test levels the more muscle mass you will lose hence making running a cycle almost counter productive. So IMO a serm is good a serm and an AI is better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwkraemer88 View Post
    1 x Super-DMZ Rx
    2 x Super Trenabol
    1 x Eradicate
    1 x Growth
    1 x Gear Support

    Cycle;
    Super-DMZ Rx ~ Weeks 1-4 @ 2caps e/d (AM & PM Split Dosing)
    Super-Trenabol ~ 1-4 @ 6caps e/d (AM & PM Split Dosing)
    Gear Support ~ Weeks 1-4 @ 2caps e/d (AM Dosing)

    PCT;
    Clomiphene (Clomid) ~ Weeks 5-8 @ 2ml e/d (AM Dosing)
    Eradicate ~ Weeks 9-12 @ 3caps e/d (Morning, Noon & Night Split Dosing)
    Gear Support ~ Weeks 5-8 @ 2caps e/d (AM Dosing)
    Growth ~ Weeks 5-8 @ 3caps e/d (PM Dosing)

    That str8?
    So you are basically stacking:

    Dmz
    M-sten
    M1a
    Trenabol

    Have you ever ran any of those in previous cycles solo or stacked?
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    Well in his updated cycle info. That he's using "super dmz rx". Maybe he changed his mind to running 2.0? Also OP celtictren is cheeper than trenabol I believe. Check it out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwkraemer88 View Post
    Tren for trest? Plz elaborate lol I'm sorry for bein a dick yal all this researching and not gettin in the gym is frustrating lol
    Lots of guys get bad sides like lethargy and low libido from using such harsh ph like msten. Trest will help with this just as test would. Trest is also very anabolic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rphash49 View Post

    So you are basically stacking:

    Dmz
    M-sten
    M1a
    Trenabol

    Have you ever ran any of those in previous cycles solo or stacked?
    Thank you Rphash.
    And you too McCrew.
    But I'm done here. This entire thread should be deleted. I've ran 9 cycles and I wouldn't even consider stacking those 4 compounds.. There's no need to stack a sh!t-ton of random toxic orals thinking that more drugs = more gains. And the fact that discussing NOT running PCT's is happening in the same thread....... Peace.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthersby View Post
    Thank you Rphash.
    And you too McCrew.
    But I'm done here. This entire thread should be deleted. I've ran 9 cycles and I wouldn't even consider stacking those 4 compounds.. There's no need to stack a sh!t-ton of random toxic orals thinking that more drugs = more gains. And the fact that discussing NOT running PCT's is happening in the same thread....... Peace.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthersby View Post

    Thank you Rphash.
    And you too McCrew.
    But I'm done here. This entire thread should be deleted. I've ran 9 cycles and I wouldn't even consider stacking those 4 compounds.. There's no need to stack a sh!t-ton of random toxic orals thinking that more drugs = more gains. And the fact that discussing NOT running PCT's is happening in the same thread....... Peace.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwkraemer88 View Post
    I start Thursday.please comment on my stack with what results I should see with good eating and comment on how I should take everything
    1.super dmz 3.0
    2.anabolic matrix
    3.ultra male rx
    4.m5 extreme
    5.creatine monohydrate
    6.bcaa 6000
    7.advanced cycle support
    You should AT LEAST get Clomid (a SERM) otherwise your in for an awful experience. Im running Super DMZ 2.0 right now and its pretty intense (although i am a skinny guy), I couldnt imagine 3.0, with that being said id run Nolva AND Clomid just to be on the safe side. Even look into Letro, just in case.
    BTW i'd listen to "Matthersby" hes got some solid experience and very good advice.
  

  
 

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