First cycle ever, do I have this mapped out right?

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Hello All. I have decided to take then plunge after years of research and mulling this over. I am 29 and will be turning 30 this year. I already have 5 children combined between me and my wife do I do not care to have any more children. I have been lifting weights since i was 14 years old and have a personal training certification from ACSM, so I'm solid on the training and nutrition end. Currently I am 5'11" 205 lbs at approximately 12-14 % body fat. I am prepared to order 3 vials of test e 250 and pin one mL twice a week for 12 weeks. I will also be pinning 250 iu of HCG from weeks 4-12 and taking .25 mg of arimidez eod. I have read that in addition to preventing gyno this can also dry out some of the excess water retention, is that right? I will start taking Nolvadex 2 weeks after my last test injection for four weeks; 40 mg/day for the first two weeks and 20 mg/day for the final two weeks. I will also supplement with DAA for the 4 weeks of PCT. Does this all look legit? I was also thinking of ordering some dbol to kick start the cycle, but have read conflicting advice about first cycle usage. Also, I'm already pretty strong naturally (Bench 315, Squat 405, Dead 495). I used to actually lift a little bit heavier but the joints and tendons ain't what they used to be in college lol. All feedback and critique is appreciated. Thanks in advance
 
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Hello All. I have decided to take then plunge after years of research and mulling this over. I am 29 and will be turning 30 this year. I already have 5 children combined between me and my wife do I do not care to have any more children. I have been lifting weights since i was 14 years old and have a personal training certification from ACSM, so I'm solid on the training and nutrition end. Currently I am 5'11" 205 lbs at approximately 12-14 % body fat. I am prepared to order 3 vials of test e 250 and pin one mL twice a week for 12 weeks. I will also be pinning 250 iu of HCG from weeks 4-12 and taking .25 mg of arimidez eod. I have read that in addition to preventing gyno this can also dry out some of the excess water retention, is that right? I will start taking Nolvadex 2 weeks after my last test injection for four weeks; 40 mg/day for the first two weeks and 20 mg/day for the final two weeks. I will also supplement with DAA for the 4 weeks of PCT. Does this all look legit? I was also thinking of ordering some dbol to kick start the cycle, but have read conflicting advice about first cycle usage. Also, I'm already pretty strong naturally (Bench 315, Squat 405, Dead 495). I used to actually lift a little bit heavier but the joints and tendons ain't what they used to be in college lol. All feedback and critique is appreciated. Thanks in advance
Only thing i would change is I'd run nolva for 6 weeks. I like clomid and nolva. Some say it's a waste I say It brings function back better. I do clo at. 50ed for 4 weeks nolva at. 20ed for 6.

Otherwise you done your research. I applaud you. I'm glad to help someone that has a clue and doesn't need to be spoon fed. Add a little exemestane into pct to keep e2 low. Like last 4 weeks first 2 12.5 eod last 2 6.25eod will be fine.

The adex will help a little with water retention on cycle but it's not a miracle worker. Best I've done on cycle for water control is low carb. Be ready to adjust doses as needed. .25mg eod may work for some but not others. Depends on how much adex is actually suspended also.
 
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Everything looks good to me man. I would recommend that you run a natty test booster like Tropinol XP during your PCT, but that's just a recommendation DAA + SERM would be sufficient.
 
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looks good! when are you pinning? monday thur? tues, friday? i mean doesnt matter which one you pick but i am curious because everyone has their different days. also you can but not recommending you can drop the HCG since its a simple test but if you got it USE it. i like holding off on the DAA until week 2 because i buy dpol which has 4weeks worth and i like after my serm DAA by itself but hey thats just me. hope you get all KINDS of gainzzzzz.
 
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also sounds crazy but if you wanna help fight estrogen since youre on a simple cycle pick up some Erase from PES. yeah it might be OTC but i always have it on hand for Prohormone cycles (havent injected yet planning on after this competition)
 

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I actually stacked erase and DAA together just for the hell of it and saw some decent gains from that alone like 2 months ago. Superbeast, so you actually recommend taking Clomid, Nolvadex and Aromasin for the PCT cycle? I thought that Adex and armoasin for basically the same. What is the reasoning behind this? I have also been considering using clomid, althogh that is mostly because I heard it makes you shoot big pornstar loads lol. But ultimately my research has led me to beleive that Nolva is superior to clomid in that I've read that users say it helps their mood alot more than clomid. Thoughts?
 
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I actually stacked erase and DAA together just for the hell of it and saw some decent gains from that alone like 2 months ago. Superbeast, so you actually recommend taking Clomid, Nolvadex and Aromasin for the PCT cycle? I thought that Adex and armoasin for basically the same. What is the reasoning behind this? I have also been considering using clomid, althogh that is mostly because I heard it makes you shoot big pornstar loads lol. But ultimately my research has led me to beleive that Nolva is superior to clomid in that I've read that users say it helps their mood alot more than clomid. Thoughts?
Nolva and clomid do the same thing but have a different mechanism of action,which is why people recommend doing both. No one is better than the other IMO as people respond to them differently. On clomid you can have some emotional issues ( like crying when you watch a sad movie fir example lol ).
Armidex and aromasin are both AIs your correct but the difference being exemstane is a suicidal inhibitor which actually kills off the aromatise enzyme where adex us non suicidal and only deactivates the enzyme. When running a non suicidal AI there is a chance of rebound gyno upon cessation of use.
 
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luke hit the nail on the head. no need to explain. i feel clomid actually brings my boys back a little quicker, but the nolva does better keeping gyno away and helps with the restart. as i said i prefer to use both at lower doses than mega dosing one of them. 50mg of clo and 20mg nolva is far superior than 150mg clomid or 60mg nolva. less sides and all the effects. its like stacking steroids. i love anadrol. i love dbol. i like high doses but high doses make me feel like sh*t. why not low dose both and enjoy the benefits of both.


AI's he hit the nail on the head as well. adex non suicidal. it also competes with the same receptors as nolva which can render is useless in a nolvadex based pct. using exemestane in pct will help not see rebound estrogen and potentially rebound gyno a few weeks after the cycle.
 

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Ok so I've placed my order. Decided to pick up some anavar as well to run as a kick start. contrary to what appears to be the most frequent usage, I've found research which indicates that anavar while not being as great of a bulker as dianabol or anadrol is great for bringing about strength increases and even some hard size. I plan on taking 50 MG from week 1-4 and 10-12, I will pin my test e at 600 mg/week for 12 weeks pinning on Sunday night and Thursday morning. I am planning on taking Clomid at 50 nolva at 20 and aromasin at 6.25 weeks 14-17 and I erase pro and 3g of DAA for weeks 15-18. will eat about 210g of protein, 210g of complex carbo hydrates only and 100g of fat. I will allow myself to eat up to an extra 125g of protein and carbs as I feel needed. I will also be pinning 200 iu of HCG every 3rd day just to be safe from week 4-13 . Finally I've got some adex, going to run hslf an mg every other day on cycle. I will train using an HST program for the first six weeks to ease my joints into the heavier weights. But weeks 7-12 I'm planning on being just balls to the walls heavy ass weight, going to try a power bodybuilding routine, I want to see what I can do on gear. My goals are to take my max bench from circa 315 to 405 lbs, my squat from circa 405 lbs to 500 and my dead from 495 to 600 lbs. Planning on being bigger, stronger and harder than ever thise summer for my 30th birthday. Any tips, advice or comments on what I can expect to experience on this cycle. I forget to mention that I am type 1 diabetic and already use my insulin pretty well in addition.
 
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Nice job on all the research. Seriously, well done. But, bro.... You gotta make that block into a few paragraphs. That was exhausting.
Anyways, do you have enough anavar to run weeks 10-14?. The 2 week finisher doesn't make sense. The idea with those is usually to have a short acting oral that will work until the day before PCT starts. While the Test ester is clearing, it's just kicking into full gear for your last 2 weeks.
 

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I ordered 50 x 50mgs of var, so I could run it for just short of 4 weeks on both sides of the cycle: weeks 1-4: 1xmonday thru saturday; and then do the say thing for weeks 10-14.
Wow! didn't realize I would actually be extending my cycle an extra 2 weeks. I know Anavar isn't regarded as a super-bulker, I'm hoping to feel the strength increase quick.
I also can't wait to pop one of there "SuperMan" pills I also ordered. 25g viagra x 25g cialis. I've read legendary things about these pills. I can't wait to feel that either. lol
 

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