Need info on pro-hormone cycle

[Jaydot123]

I am 1 week into a pro-hormone cycle consisting of trenedione (estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17 Dione) by xcel sports nutrition. I've stacked it with epistane by xcel sports as well.... I'm taking 30 mg of the trenedione a day and epistane at 45 mg a day. I have prior pro hormone use and have been lifting for about 4 or 5 years. Was wondering if these doses are good and would an over the counter PCT be good or should I look into something else?

 

[Jaydot123]

Can I stack halodrol with this? And I'm currently taking cycle support as well

 

[tyga tyga]

No, a OTC pct will NOT suffice for this cycle. The tren dose is a little low, epistane is fine. I wouldn't add the halo in either.

 

[Jaydot123]

Thanks bro! Appreciate the response! What should my PCT look like?

 

[tyga tyga]

Thanks bro! Appreciate the response! What should my PCT look like?

Clomid 75/50/50/50 or torem 90/60/60/60
Abliterate ammo (cortisol control)
Dopadex (Ldopa/mucuna)
BPS formasurge (I like to reverse taper my formestane after a cycle) so, 25/50/75/100 (mgs of formestane)

 

[Jaydot123]

So 90 mgs everyday first week than 60 mgs everyday for the next 3 weeks... Or do I take 90 mgs a week?

 

[tyga tyga]

So 90 mgs everyday first week than 60 mgs everyday for the next 3 weeks... Or do I take 90 mgs a week?

90mgs ed first week then 60mg ed for the next three weeks

 

[Rostam]

Don't you think it would have been wise to research your cycle, it's side effects and pct before starting it? Based on your posts it seems you have no idea what you are doing and this is not very good. Sorry if I sound rude but it's worth being mentioned.

 

[Jaydot123]

So what are the doses for the other things?



And Rostam I got pro-hormone from local nutrition store and they recommended OTC pct and cycle support so I was just double checking

 

[Jaydot123]

Also I've tried many times researching but I always find different answers from all kinda of different people, so I figured id ask the question myself and see what responses I got

 

[tyga tyga]

The formestane I already lined out.

Abliterate ammo is, 1 cap am, 1 cap pm.
Dopadex 3 caps split through the day or 1 cap am and 2 caps prebed

 

[Jaydot123]

Tyga your the man, thank you!

 

[mw1]

Actually if you plan on using Tren it is more beneficial to run the L-Dopa ON cycle rather than pct
Nolva at 20/20/20/20 with DAA would be fine for PCT. If you add any stims in pct then you may want to add some Reduce XT (stims raise cortisol levels)

 

[McCrew530]

So what are the doses for the other things?



And Rostam I got pro-hormone from local nutrition store and they recommended OTC pct and cycle support so I was just double checking

Every sup shop will recommend an OTC because they sell them but with compounds like the one you are running you will need something stronger for sure. I have read an effective dose of the tren to be between 60 and 90 I will be running it around 120 when I stack it with epi this coming summer.

& MW1 is right about the L-dopa, address the prolactin while the chance of elevation is there not after it has set in. SNS Inhibit-p is inexpensive.

 

[Jaydot123]

Thanks for all the input fellas, so I guess the decision is Mikva at 20/20/20/20? Or torem at 90/60/60/60

 

[Jaydot123]

Nolva**

 

[Jaydot123]

And also the back of the bottle of the trendione (estra-4,9,11-triene-3 17 Dione) recommends 2 pills a day and the pills are only dosed at 15 mg.... So I should take 4 a day? It also says on the bottle it has carbopol which apparently makes the compound time released

 

[Rostam]

I seriously think you should stop playing with pro-hormones until you are more educated and do your homework before touching any hormone/pro-hormone.

 

[usernamee]

At least read tunedsports articles on what you're taking. Even better, research cycle logs, reviews, etc.

 

[tyga tyga]

I never use OTC supps to inhibit prolactin. Prami is my go too, I won't recommend OTC supps while on cycle either

Also, why nolva? The couple studies I've seen have showed an increase on serum t levels (up 3) with no change in FSH and LH between the controlled group and placebo.

 

[Jaydot123]

I'm already 1 week and a half in, so 45 mg not enough of the trenidione? And I understand I'm not very educated which is why I'm posting, I have done a couple pro cycles in the past and I got my T levels checked last month and the numbers are good so idk

 

[McCrew530]

And also the back of the bottle of the trendione (estra-4,9,11-triene-3 17 Dione) recommends 2 pills a day and the pills are only dosed at 15 mg.... So I should take 4 a day? It also says on the bottle it has carbopol which apparently makes the compound time released

I would ignore the time release stuff & 15mg is a common dosage.

 

[mw1]

I would ignore the time release stuff & 15mg is a common dosage.

This^^ I seriously doubt they are licensing Carbopol. The company that holds the patent isnt one to sell to ph companies