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    Thoughts on my bulking cycle


    Stats: 22 years old, 5 foot 9, 207 pounds, 9% body fat
    cycle history: been blasting and cruising for past two years.
    I've used in past cycles: tren ace, test prop, masteron, winstrol.

    Starting a dry lean bulk in January and need opinions on what to run.
    I love tren for bulking and I like to stay away from orals and wet gains.

    Option 1:
    tren, nandrolone phenyl propionate( fast acting deca), test prop
    aromasin

    option 2:
    tren ace, eq, test e
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    What so you guys think?

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    Also I have tried superdrol in the past and didnt like it one bit
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    Any thoughts on tren and nandrolone phenyl propionate ?
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    I don't think you'd be wanting to run to progesterone compounds. I'd opt for your 2nd option.
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    *2 compounds. Sorry fat fingers and tiny eyes lol. Can't type on my phone
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    if you decide to run tren with nandrolone, that is fine and dandy but you'll want some prami to run. don't wait until you have problems just run it and check with bloods after a while

    im more of a fan of boldenone than nandrolone but I've not tried either, so my opinion probably doesn't mean anything. If you want to gain a lot fast I'd go with the npp but if you're more of a fan of lower doses for a long time the equipoise will make you look amazing. my friend runs 250 test, 750 eq and the quality of his muscle is amazing. He's not "big" but he just looks freaky
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    I'd go with the first option. But definitely run prami.
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    Why not try a test e and tren e cycle? That long enanthate ester will allow you to run tren for a much longer time than ace, which should give you plenty of time to pack on some quality lean body mass. From what I have heard tren e is a much smoother ride than tren ace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technique88 View Post
    Why not try a test e and tren e cycle? That long enanthate ester will allow you to run tren for a much longer time than ace, which should give you plenty of time to pack on some quality lean body mass. From what I have heard tren e is a much smoother ride than tren ace.
    Great suggestion. Lol idk why I didn't suggest that, granted I'm on tren e now.
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    Yeah I know tren e would be the better option to me but I already have 10 tren a vials lol. Also tren a gets out of ur system faster if sides start getting bad.
    I was thinking of running this for my lean bulk cycle:
    Tren a 100mg eod for 16 weeks
    Test e 500mg a week for 16 weeks
    Eq at 800 mg a week for 16 weeks
    Aromasin 25mg a day
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    Also never took eq. I hear its great for lean quality muscle gains over time and can help promote freakish vascularity. I already get scary vascular from tren so I can't wait to see what eq can do. But my question is when does eq really begin to shine? I've heard it takes a couple weeks to notice the full effects of eq.
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    From my research of eq after about the first week the hunger kicks in, 2-3 strength kicks in and around wk6 you really start noticing it and that's at 600mg wk. also Iv read that the sides really start once you go over 600mg wk. personally I'm about to run eq for the first time this week at 600mg wk.
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    So do you think eq at 800 mg a week is over kill and I should just run it at 600 ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by liftallday123 View Post
    So do you think eq at 800 mg a week is over kill and I should just run it at 600 ?
    Stick to 800. Go up to a gram if you can afford it and handle the anxiety sides. 600mgs ain't worth a damn in my experience. Be ready for estro sides around week 6.

    Eq is like primo. More is better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post
    Stick to 800. Go up to a gram if you can afford it and handle the anxiety sides. 600mgs ain't worth a damn in my experience. Be ready for estro sides around week 6.

    Eq is like primo. More is better.
    ^^^ this. Most ppl it seems from what Iv seen run 800-1200 if they can stand the sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post
    Stick to 800. Go up to a gram if you can afford it and handle the anxiety sides. 600mgs ain't worth a damn in my experience. Be ready for estro sides around week 6.

    Eq is like primo. More is better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liftallday123 View Post
    Yeah I know tren e would be the better option to me but I already have 10 tren a vials lol. Also tren a gets out of ur system faster if sides start getting bad.
    I was thinking of running this for my lean bulk cycle:
    Tren a 100mg eod for 16 weeks
    Test e 500mg a week for 16 weeks
    Eq at 800 mg a week for 16 weeks
    Aromasin 25mg a day
    This will make you look amazing.
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    I can't wait to see how eq stacks with tren. I've only ran tren solo with test so far and I felt like a god. I'm so excited !
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    Quote Originally Posted by liftallday123 View Post
    I can't wait to see how eq stacks with tren. I've only ran tren solo with test so far and I felt like a god. I'm so excited !
    Yeah you will grow very well on 500/350 test/tren. The equipoise will not help so much with the muscle but that's ok, it will give you a "look" like no other. I wish I could run it but as a powerlifter 20kg under his ideal weight I can't justify the cost haha.

    Pic is 250/750 test/bold. You can see the look it gives clearly here. Doesn't have the size that test gives but he looks unnatural and mutant like lol
    http://i.imgur.com/3HQqjXy.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by liftallday123 View Post
    So do you think eq at 800 mg a week is over kill and I should just run it at 600 ?
    No its not overkill but u should taper up. More is not always better of u have a hodge podge of other compounds in the mix. If 600 works fine, why bother with 800? With that said, 800 generally doesnt cause much sides. I ran Mast with mine.

    EQ needs time not necessarily higher dosage. I'd taper everything up as I go bumping each compound one at a time to see which gives what sides..
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    So u have ran eq before ? What dosage did u find to be the best for you ? I'm really considering of starting at 800mg then mabe go up to a gram.
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    Looks like eq did him good lol. I'm starting this cycle at already 9 percent body fat at 210 pounds so I can't wait to see even more shape and veins pop out in the muscles haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liftallday123 View Post
    Looks like eq did him good lol. I'm starting this cycle at already 9 percent body fat at 210 pounds so I can't wait to see even more shape and veins pop out in the muscles haha.
    You'll b nasty brah
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    Quote Originally Posted by liftallday123 View Post
    So u have ran eq before ? What dosage did u find to be the best for you ? I'm really considering of starting at 800mg then mabe go up to a gram.
    I didn't like eq. At any dose. Tried 250-750. 750 I looked far better than 250. Vascularity was far better. Tapering up isn't a bad suggestion. I don't do well with a large dose out of the box. I get real nasty anxiety.
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    Do you think that was blood pressure?
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post

    I didn't like eq. At any dose. Tried 250-750. 750 I looked far better than 250. Vascularity was far better. Tapering up isn't a bad suggestion. I don't do well with a large dose out of the box. I get real nasty anxiety.
    Its definitely in my to-cycle list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexPowell View Post
    Do you think that was blood pressure?
    The anxiety wasn't bp. It was legit like panic attacks. The first cycle I thought it may have been bp. Second I had the same sides with a significantly lower bp.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Its definitely in my to-cycle list.
    It's not bad. Not good either. I can think of better things to spend my money on honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liftallday123 View Post
    So u have ran eq before ? What dosage did u find to be the best for you ? I'm really considering of starting at 800mg then mabe go up to a gram.
    The highest I ever saw was:

    Test-E 750mg
    EQ 750mg
    Mast-E 400mg

    EQ is an awesome performance enhancement drug. Red blood cells get very thick. With that, sides are shortness of breath and anxiety. However, I didnt realize I had anxiety until after I stopped. It was so gradual in its progression that it was hard to realize. Granted, I tapered up.

    If I did it all over again, I'd just do a gram of Test and 400-600mg Mast to kill the estrogen. Emphasis on Masteron. Its a fix all drug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post

    The anxiety wasn't bp. It was legit like panic attacks. The first cycle I thought it may have been bp. Second I had the same sides with a significantly lower bp.

    It's not bad. Not good either. I can think of better things to spend my money on honestly.
    Good point. It just sounds interesting to me. I'll give it a go next year
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    Any of you guys ever try 1-test cyp ? It's suppose to be like a stronger more harder EQ. I was gonna run 1-test cyp with tren and test originally but my supplier is out at the moment and I only have only 3 vials which isn't enough for a full cycle so I have to settle for EQ for now...
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    If you want a stronger and harder eq, increase test and adex!
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    I'm gonna run testoviron at 500 mg a weeks along with aromasin. I've never tried adex before. Always used aromasin since I get scripts lol.
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    sweet bro, they are pretty interchangeable
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    I'm hoping someone will take the plunge and try IM desoxytest @ 200+ mg weekly. I'm lookin at it being a possible unbanned alternative to EQ and Deca.
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    Is this an oral or injectable ? I've never heard of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fueledpassion View Post
    I'm hoping someone will take the plunge and try IM desoxytest @ 200+ mg weekly. I'm lookin at it being a possible unbanned alternative to EQ and Deca.
    Tinytony is right now. Follow his log
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post

    Tinytony is right now. Follow his log
    But its with Trest. No way of knowing which does what..
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    Quote Originally Posted by fueledpassion View Post

    But its with Trest. No way of knowing which does what..
    So u wanna see a solo run?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post

    So u wanna see a solo run?
    Well, either that or with test. I wanna see what it does at various dosages with a T base. Like you'd do with Tren or EQ or anything else.

    Trest is so strong its hard to see potential in anything else when it is present.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fueledpassion View Post

    Well, either that or with test. I wanna see what it does at various dosages with a T base. Like you'd do with Tren or EQ or anything else.

    Trest is so strong its hard to see potential in anything else when it is present.
    That's very true. Its 10 times stronger than test
  

  
 

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