Formestane / Dermacrine stack question
- 12-03-2013, 10:25 PM
Formestane / Dermacrine stack question
Thanks for the help up front, and I apologize if this is the wrong section. First post since joining last year, but I am more of a lurker anywho.
I am looking to slim down a bit while keeping the mass I have. I have searched and searched but have been unable to find a solid answer to my question.
If I run a 4-6 week topical formestane / dermacrine stack, do I need a PCT, and what should it be?
I have gathered that for formestane, no. For Dermacrine, some say yes and some say yes after four weeks of use, but I have seen nothing regarding using the two together. I was going to go formestane only, but so many are saying derma gives the real cutting effect. My diet is strict and I am losing weight, but I just want a little fire added. I am 26 years old, currently at 16% body fat and fairly muscular.
I am looking at BPS Dermacrine topical. For the formestane, I am looking at either BPS formasurge or Black Lion Formeron. Some lean heavily on one product and some swear by the other and some say it's splitting hairs. Regardless, I just want to know what, if any, PCT I should have ready for this combo.
Thank you for your time.
- 12-04-2013, 09:46 AM
Both can be mildly suppressive so I would do a pct.
Low dose Formeron solo wouldn't need a pct but dermacrine solo would. Hope that helps
- 12-04-2013, 11:41 AM
Thank you so much. That's what I figured but wasn't sure how much the formestane would keep the decramine in line. Would you just recommend a standard OTC test booster?
12-04-2013, 11:55 AM
Wow I hate to ever say a serm is not needed. Maybe a four week cycle will be fine with an otc pct but if you go any longer I would say get a serm. I personally would use a serm regardless, why not. It's cheap and I have a ton of it so why not be safe.
12-04-2013, 12:01 PM
Now if you are set in just using the derm and formeron I would use the Formeron for an additional 2 weeks after stopping the derm.
12-04-2013, 12:06 PM
12-04-2013, 02:46 PM
12-04-2013, 02:57 PM
I'm thinking of doing something similar was gonna do derma for 6 weeks, start black lion forma after 2 weeks for 6 weeks so a total of 8 weeks, overlapping for 2. Anyone ever tried this?
12-05-2013, 06:48 PM
another option for cutting would be formasurge/dcp 2.0.
if you are new to topicals, using 2 topicals at once might get complicated, imo.
at the same time i am getting ready to run formasurge/dermacrine/androgel....even with my years of topical experience this is uncharted water for me.
log is up if you want to follow along, i should be getting products in the next few days...
12-09-2013, 08:12 PM
Finally, when you say full and half dose...are you going based on the label on each of the bottles? I see all kinds of dosages for this stuff from people on the forum.
Sorry for all the questions and thank you for your help.
12-09-2013, 08:39 PM
if you have 1 bottle each of formasurge/dermacrine, then run the dermacrine full dose on the bottle for duartion of bottle, run the formasurge at 2 pumps i time daily[half dose] until bottle is gone....this should give you an extra 10 days to 2 weeks of formasurge after dermacrine is done.
if you have any questions, ask away!!! imo, formasurge/dermacrine is an outstanding combo!!!
i am logging formasurge/dermacrine in the supplemet log section if you want to follow along.
12-09-2013, 08:48 PM
Awesome! I certainly will. I am very excited. The bottle of formasurge says 2 pumps...So I just do 2 pumps once a day. So for me that's 3 pumps daily derm and 2 pumps daily formasurge until both are gone. And if I want to run the derma for say only 5 weeks, I just run the forma for 7 total. There's no ramping the formasurge at all huh? Sweet. I will start now. I am a pretty hairy guy, so I am thinking the derma across the shoulders and the forma on my inner biceps and forearms. I will follow your log, let me know if ya have any other tips...and thank you!
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