Hardening Cycle..11 OXO/ Stanodrol.

[jshin]

Any thoughts on potentially running 11 oxo/standrol with the sole purpose to harden/preserve muscle mass during a cut. Both of these compounds are particularly mild but I'm concerned with their effect on prostate (DHT and all that jazz). Any input would be appreciated. Any idea what a dosage scheme would look like for 6-8 weeks?

 

[Matthersby]

11-oxo needs to be ran at quite high doses to see much hardening. I think its VERY effective during a cut but I wouldn't cut without a strong product such as epistane. Unless you have confirmed prostate issues, I would simply take some saw palmetto during your run. Your stack would be fantastic alongside epi. Its cheap and one of friendliest yet potent hormones out there.

 

[Royd The Noyd]

They actually stack really well. I explained why here:

http://www.advancedmusclesciencelab.com/2012/06/dihydrotestosterone-dht-prohormones_17.html

 

[Matthersby]

^yup^

 

[threeFs]

I love dht. In fact, I use masteron with all my cycles. No prostate issues here but it can happen. Some hair loss but that's my genetics just sped up.
I've run 11 oxo but as I had low t it made me so fatigued I was worthless.

 

[mw1]

I would prefer Stanodrol but either can be quite expensive to dose properly for 6 weeks

 

[Austinmck17]

what are your guys thoughts on Celtic labs proviron compound instead of stano

 

[jshin]

What about using both concurrently? Again this purely for recomp purposes if I make gains it would definitely be a plus but the goal is to primarily preserve muscle and lose BF.

 

[Matthersby]

Personally, get some 2 bottles of Test Prop., 1 bottle of epistane, and 2 bottles of 11-oxo. You could drop several % and harden up nice.
Test@350/week/6 weeks
Epi 20/30/40/40(although I'd buy 2 and run 40/40/40/40)
11-oxo 75/75/75/75/75/75
Pct: research Torem@ 60/60/45/30

 

[threeFs]

Yeah, don't waste a week of epistane at 20mg. But I'd agree with this cycle ^^^