Im not making gains

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  1. Im not making gains


    I work out about 2 hours a day and consume 3500 calories and its 200g of protein plus carbs and Im taking phs what am i doing wrong


  2. How long have you been training, how old are you, what are your stats, and what ph are you taking and how long have you been on?
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  3. lifting for six years 5'9 200 lbs 17%bodyfat. phs are msten/epi 2a 3a/ trenabol. my 4th day on usally i notice something by now

  4. Age?
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  5. 35 years old
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  6. It's only 4 days in.... What other cycles have you ran and when was your last run?
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  7. rpn havoc with cjc-1925 gh2p-2 ghrp-6 peptides,

  8. and hex

  9. When was your last run, how long have you been off?
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  10. pct ended 6 months ago but how long befor i notice gains

  11. Bro honestly I think it's all in your head.... Your only four days in, you won't see any gains in 4 days. Maybe some water/nitrogen retention but that's all. If you do your part the phs WILL do their part. Give it some time you will see gains. Keep eating and training and get rest.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by Godstrength View Post
    Bro honestly I think it's all in your head.... Your only four days in, you won't see any gains in 4 days. Maybe some water/nitrogen retention but that's all. If you do your part the phs WILL do their part. Give it some time you will see gains. Keep eating and training and get rest.
    thank you very much man i will

  13. Make sure you take your PCT seriously as well. Hopefully you do a healthy dose of SERM and a natty test booster like Intimidate SRT as well. I hate when people will make great gains and cheap out on PCT only to lose all or most of those gains.

  14. I started a similar Cycle last sunday but high Trenabol and not so much Epi
    this might not help but I'm already seeing it work.
    My BF is around 10-10.5% so any small change can be easily seen.
    Today I was 2LBS heavier in the morning, same body BF%
    I've only worked my chest and quads since started it on Sun.

  15. Give it time... if not anything in a few check to make sure you didnt get bunk gear or maybe expired goods.

  16. im noticing gains i got 5 more reps on each exersise

  17. Maybe you're body is different than me, but I have to eat more calories than that to gain anything. I'm 187 fasted as of this morning, not sure of BF a little washed out but can see abs. Anytime I'm over 180 though I have to start really upping the calories. I do fine with 200g of protein but I'll need like 3800 calories minimum. I'm actually aiming for 4000 now that I'm closing in on 190 and I know I'll need more. Obviously if you gain fat a little easier though you probably want to be more conservative.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post
    give it time, but i dont believe you need to train for 2hrs a day. 1 hr 3-4 time a week will probably work best for mass, esp since you're 35. i gained about 30 lbs in my 30's with low volume. nowdays i lift heavy one week with 3-5 min rest, 6-8 reps, with low volume , then the next week i add volume and go for more of a pump with 10-12 reps and 90 sec rests. change core exercises every few weeks to keep it fresh.


    ^This bro. do your best to not over-train. Also what are your goals? Are you lifting for strength, size or both? If I were guessing i would say it sounds like your trying to get bigger just based on the info you provided....

    Here's what works for me your weight and rep ranges to necessary to achieve a certain type of hypertrophy will very based on your personal genetics:

    For putting on quality weight that makes me stronger and holds/increases definition = 75% of 2 rep max @ 5-7 reps x 5-6 sets (Hybrid*)
    More weight gain and inches (looks better in a t shirt) less strength and less definition = 50-60% of my 2 rep max @ 8-10 reps x 6-8 sets (sarcoplasmic, type 1)
    For stronger and more ripped without gaining much size or weight = 80-95% of my 2 rep max @ 3-5 reps x 3-5 (myofibrillar, type 2)

    Hybrid-Muscle or Type 3 Muscle:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do8Dchor7O0

    Read more on hypertrophy here:
    http://www.manicmuscles.com/sarcoplasmic-hypertrophy/
    http://www.manicmuscles.com/myofibrillar-hypertrophy/
    Your fastest weight is your best weight

  19. Just to throw in my 2 cents about overtraining I'll say that I don't believe in it in regards to muscle hypertrophy. I do believe you can easily do extensive damage to your joints or if you develop a muscle tear from working out hard it can get worse, but I don't think there's a point where you are overtraining your muscles unless you are literally clinically injuring yourself from training. Case in point Dana Linn Bailey said when training with George Farah for the 2013 Olympia she did legs for 2-3 hours 3 times a week.

    Sometimes I spend awhile in the gym doing legs and abs(like 1.5-2hrs), mostly I think because I take longer rests on leg days. I think if you're in the gym longer you can challenge yourself by shortening rest times. Most people who spend 2-3 hours in the gym are resting too much. Legs aside, most of my workouts are an hour or less. This is because I try to rest 30 seconds to 1 minute between sets, and I superset a lot. This is actually based on advice I got from a personal trainer who is a competing bodybuilder
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  20. 10 days at least to feel anything on any of those compounds

  21. my strength has shot up

  22. Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post
    i agree with most of what you are saying. i've noticed that as i get older, i develop systemic over training. its not muscles but a complete systemic drain. i've trained with forced reps and negs and x-reps too hard and the next day or day after, wow, chronic fatigue for 2 days, feel stressed out. almost like adrenal fatigue or something. but you're right, its not muscles that feels over trained.
    Oh yeah that makes sense. Haven't really even thought too much about mental effects.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  23. A 2 hr training session tells me you're lacking intensity. Hence no growth.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post
    i agree with most of what you are saying. i've noticed that as i get older, i develop systemic over training. its not muscles but a complete systemic drain. i've trained with forced reps and negs and x-reps too hard and the next day or day after, wow, chronic fatigue for 2 days, feel stressed out. almost like adrenal fatigue or something. but you're right, its not muscles that feels over trained.
    I understand what you're talking about. I experience this too. I don't think its necessarily age as I'm almost 22 but I think its just cuz your training intensity is so high. Even when I'm on cycle which I am currently, I still will feel worn out and drained like this every so often.

  25. lethargy can also result from test suppression. That's an added component of cycling without a test base.
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