dhea, which and how much?
- 11-16-2013, 11:38 PM
dhea, which and how much?
so dhea helps with lethargy on cycle. i never ran any but would like to with next cycle in a couple weeks. my question is which type of dhea do you guys buy? is it the $10 dhea products u can buy at any supp or drug store or are u supposed to use the 5dhea, 1ad or 4ad products? also how many mg per day? gonn be running alpha20/dianabol stack and all i here about alpha is it causes crazy lethargic
- 11-17-2013, 02:00 AM
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11-17-2013, 10:56 AM
All the normal DHEA products are 5DHEA due to the 5-6 double bond.
1-DHEA is not to be used for lethargy it is a precursor to 1-testosterone which will cause lethargy.
4-DHEA is a testosterone precursor and can be used for lethargy. IML 4-ANDRO, AMS 4-AD RDE, ForeRunner Alpha Bulk.
Then you have androsterone and epiandrosterone which are basically DHEA with no double bonds androsterone is 3 alpha hydroxy epiandrosterone is 3 beta hydroxy these are both DHT precursors which are used sometimes as well.
Basically pick your poison oral DHEA not usually recomended, topical is, 4-DHEA is your best bet but can be expensive, DHT PH's work to but need to be dosed high, and don't waste your time with overpriced Androfactory products.
11-17-2013, 01:08 PM
I've posted why oral dhea, is a waste a number of times.
If you disagree, tell Patrick Arnold about how wrong he is, and that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Seriously, Please do it, and re post the convo for us.
I would think by now people would know I don't just make shiit up.
Yes, I know why its a waste, but I'm not the one searching for answers, or disagreeing, so not my problem.
Again, plain oral dhea, the kind you buy for 10 bucks at Wal-Mart, or the 15$ bottle you buy from vitamin Shoppe is s waste.
11-17-2013, 02:08 PM
really appreciate it guys, just never knew if you guys were taking the drug store dhea or these expensive ones. never would buy androfacotry stuff, price is just ridiculous
11-17-2013, 07:21 PM
11-17-2013, 10:39 PM
Dermacrine will be my go to product to combat lethargy going forward. Using it on cycle now and I feel great.
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11-18-2013, 12:53 AM
When you said it I was just wondering if there was some major difference between the two products.
11-18-2013, 01:01 AM
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11-18-2013, 02:12 AM
oh yes and tbh dermacrine is one of the best supplements you can buy!
11-18-2013, 02:24 AM
11-18-2013, 02:29 AM
I am glad that dermacrine is still available, it is worth a try, just my .02 cents
11-18-2013, 07:29 AM
The dermacrine pp made and sold is different than dermacrine sold now.
And my bad, so many people have owned rights to sell a topical dhea product under that name, I forget who has the rights now, but at one point he had those rights.
11-18-2013, 07:38 AM
Nathan Chase's product is RS-Transaderm not Dermacrine. All 3 of these transdermals have worked well for me ( P-Spray, Dermacrine & Transaderm).
11-18-2013, 09:05 AM
11-18-2013, 10:06 AM
I have run regular DHEA powder in Phojel in the past.
While I will not compare it to other other DHEA-based trabsdermals, it significantly increased my sense of well being.
And it was dirt cheap.
And, after my next blood test (today @ 9AM) I will start running it again (although I do not believe it would have materially impacted today's blood test).
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11-18-2013, 05:54 PM
If you cannot get test then stano seems to be popular at combating lethargy although I cannot personally vouch for this. Trest and 4-dhea products are other options.
11-18-2013, 07:16 PM
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