Looking to take something during the winter that causes the least amount of shutdown. Or something I can take along with a PH to minimize the effect, like an AI. Suggestions?
That's impossible. The stronger the PH/DS the greater level of shutdown. We all suck it up and take it and have a good pct.Looking to take something during the winter that causes the least amount of shutdown. Or something I can take along with a PH to minimize the effect, like an AI. Suggestions?
Oral dhea. End thread.Looking to take something during the winter that causes the least amount of shutdown. Or something I can take along with a PH to minimize the effect, like an AI. Suggestions?
Oral dhea. End thread.
The natural options are ARA,anabeta,transdermal ursolic acid and steak to be honest.Looking to take something during the winter that causes the least amount of shutdown. Or something I can take along with a PH to minimize the effect, like an AI. Suggestions?
Everything hormonal causes shut down. Nothing taken alongside a PH will minimize shutdown, AI's prevent estrogen production nothing to do with shutdown.Looking to take something during the winter that causes the least amount of shutdown. Or something I can take along with a PH to minimize the effect, like an AI. Suggestions?
This is a good suggestion Ostarine(Ostabol by Celtic Labs) has minimal shutdown but also minimal gains.Looking into SARMS. Ostarine is your best bet.
Incorrect if there was no shutdown there would be more gains it would be like cruising on test while taking orals.If there was no shut down, there would be no gainz.
This whole post is retarded ignore it. Pusling is stupid take a ph or don't. Epi isn't an AI it's a steroid. I think his whole point is trying to avoid a serm.best way to minimize shut down is a low dose, short half life, pulse cycle with a very strong compound (SD, DMZ, Epi) dbol would probably still send you limp noodle... EPI is an A.I so that would be my choice
id do something like this
Epi
30/40/40/40
dosing (m/w/f only) early in the morning and working out right after still need full supports and a real SERM based 4 week PCT
I have no interest in a pissing contest...This whole post is retarded ignore it. Pusling is stupid take a ph or don't. Epi isn't an AI it's a steroid. I think his whole point is trying to avoid a serm.
I have no interest in a pissing contest... If you want to know what the benefits of pulsing are read for yourself: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/62121-how-pulse-orals.html If you want to know if Epi is an A.I AND a steroid read of yourself: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/160496-epi-ai-test.html http://anabolicminds.com/forum/celtic-labs/97497-epistane.html
Agreed. Those threads r full of misinformation. Epi is merely androgenic and if that helps with gyno or lowers estrogen that is simply because of that fact but it is not an AI by any means. And I agree pulsing is just retarded.No, and no.
So trueceltic has a protomax clone out now. its methylated but seems to be mild with respect to sides and shutdown. you will still want a serm for pct. m4ohn would be another option. very similar to anavar in its effects. personally, i wouldn't bother with pulsing. if you run a compound that is strong enough to work with pulsing, you'll become shutdown anyway and get crap gains compared to just cycling it.