I like it! 10-12mg of MDien with Clen (appropriately dosed) should be excellent. If you run it for say 6 weeks, you might go clen weeks 1-2, E/C weeks 3-4, clen weeks 5-6. Or, you might do better with E/C weeks 1-2, clen weeks 3-4, E/C weeks 5-6, and Clen for the first 2 weeks post cycle. Or I guess you can run clen + ketotefin and go straight through the cycle without a problem of receptor shutdown. I'll be curious to hear how this goes!