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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post

    You're correct. My boy started lactating after a SD/ Halo cycle, neither aromatize but his prolactin was high.
    SD is known to do this. Testosterone tends to raise dopamine levels along with every other positive hormone. It can aromatize but if it boosts dopamine it's very difficult for testosterone to cause this. If you have prolactin gyno it's probably due to something being screwed up with thyroid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinytony View Post

    SD is known to do this. Testosterone tends to raise dopamine levels along with every other positive hormone. It can aromatize but if it boosts dopamine it's very difficult for testosterone to cause this. If you have prolactin gyno it's probably due to something being screwed up with thyroid.
    Hmmm good to know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    You're correct. My boy started lactating after a SD/ Halo cycle, neither aromatize but his prolactin was high.
    Sure but by my understanding SD is notorious for all kinds of problems on every level, user-dependent. Generally tho if you're just using compounds that convert to estrogen then prolactin issues shouldn't be a problem. Also, from all of the research I've ever come across the main theme seems to suggest that if you control estrogen, then prolactin should again be a non-issue since prolactin can only interact with breast tissue in the presence of high estrogen. Please school me if I'm wrong tho, am always open to expanding my understanding. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggiesmallz View Post

    Sure but by my understanding SD is notorious for all kinds of problems on every level, user-dependent. Generally tho if you're just using compounds that convert to estrogen then prolactin issues shouldn't be a problem. Also, from all of the research I've ever come across the main theme seems to suggest that if you control estrogen, then prolactin should again be a non-issue since prolactin can only interact with breast tissue in the presence of high estrogen. Please school me if I'm wrong tho, am always open to expanding my understanding. Thanks

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    Most would agree with the low estrogen not allowing prolactin to cause gyno
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinytony View Post

    Most would agree with the low estrogen not allowing prolactin to cause gyno
    Agreed. Gotta keep estrogen low fur sure
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    ^^hmm.. It seems war and peace are two sides of the same coin; two poles of the same energy. The world has both, so the only rational thing seems to be to accept both, and use where appropriate. So, not war, and not peace, but total war&peace together, or neither, since one can only happen in the background of the other, so just play the game the way it is and make the most of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggiesmallz
    ^^hmm.. It seems war and peace are two sides of the same coin; two poles of the same energy. The world has both, so the only rational thing seems to be to accept both, and use where appropriate. So, not war, and not peace, but total war&peace together, or neither, since one can only happen in the background of the other, so just play the game the way it is and make the most of it

    Even destruction can be used creatively to make way for something new and better... evolution; balance of opposites
    Quote Originally Posted by Slappy244 View Post
    neck'uh, i'm probably just as high as you, and i still have no idea what'chu talkin' 'bout
    Not sure I myself know what I'm talking about, but this much is true for sure;

    It seems war and peace are two sides of the same coin; two poles of the same energy. The world has both, so the only rational thing seems to be to accept both.

    The rest I'm not too sure about, I'm missing something somewhere. To put it simply; I'm not sure I understand entirely what peace is yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by biggiesmallz View Post
    . . . To put it simply; I'm not sure I understand entirely what peace is yet
    eat psilocybin semilanceata or psilocybin cubensis and smoke some good bud, then go sit outside at sunset. the answers are there, you just need to look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slappy244 View Post

    eat psilocybin semilanceata or psilocybin cubensis and smoke some good bud, then go sit outside at sunset. the answers are there, you just need to look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slappy244 View Post
    eat psilocybin semilanceata or psilocybin cubensis and smoke some good bud, then go sit outside at sunset. the answers are there, you just need to look.
    Sorry brother, I spent 2.5 yrs in the army, so was trying to figure out from Dali Lama's quote/religious icon how one can achieve world peace;
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    It seems war and peace are two sides of the same coin; two poles of the same energy. The world has both, so the only rational thing seems to be to accept both.
    ^^This is true. But, to get WORLD peace, it has to start from the individual. So, violence creates more violence, and hate creates more hate. If me and you disagree on the basis of religion (pick any one on that crest, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Taoism... basically put, if we disagree on the basis of our beliefs, and I start trying to prove to you that MY idea is right and YOUR idea is wrong, we would get in a conflict due to lack of understanding. Now, we may fight to support our beliefs, but that fighting would be useless; we would just be wasting energy, because neither of us is willing to understand the relative value in the other's belief system. Then we may hate each other, because each one thinks that THEY are right and the other is wrong, and this hatred and conflict will go on to poison our relationship in the future... The only way out of that, is for one of us to step out of the hateful circle, and drop the misunderstanding. In other words, hate breeds more hate, violence breeds more violence, and peace can only be achieved through understanding and nonviolence.

    To get global peace, it has to start from the understanding of each individual. If everyone is more understanding and accepting of another's ideas, and sidesteps any potentially violent altercations with nonaction and nonviolence, the party that's violent has nothing to fight against; conflict can only exist between two OPPOSING forces. So, if one force removes the opposition, the other force has nothing to fight against. And eventually we have brotherhood, harmony, and understanding... and we can help each other grow in our own ways by setting aside our differences for the common purpose of enjoying life and living happily.

    That seems to make sense.

    As for your suggestion, I've partaken in those plenty in my day... it's fun temporarily, can be beneficial, just don't get attached. Too much of a good thing can be a bad thing.
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    Now, what does that have to do with man titties and bodybuilding one might ask? EVERYTHING. I feel like I know a good amount about estrogen gyno, someone else may know about prolactin gyno, that doesn't mean that anyone is any more or less intelligent about the functions of gyno... and if a case happens, we can both benefit each other and expand our own understanding since some cases may require the treatment of both prolactin and estrogen to resolve... they're just two different expressions.

    The same thing with people choosing to use AAS or strictly PHs. Some people may want to use AAS, some may want to just use PH's but that doesn't mean that either one is any more or less right; they're just two different expressions, and one can benefit the knowledge and growth of the other. The same with any form of belief or any form of conflict, some people may prefer to eat cheezeburgers on a bulk, others may prefer lean chicken breast... they each have their relative value, no need to try and prove one is right or the other is wrong... I think if the other party eats the occasional cheezeburger, and the cheezeburger party eats the occasional lean chicken breast both would benefit and both would be enriched
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slappy244 View Post
    eat psilocybin semilanceata or psilocybin cubensis and smoke some good bud, then go sit outside at sunset. the answers are there, you just need to look.
    ok, skip the weed. they can't test for mushies. shrooms are food for the soul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinytony View Post
    SD is known to do this. Testosterone tends to raise dopamine levels along with every other positive hormone. It can aromatize but if it boosts dopamine it's very difficult for testosterone to cause this. If you have prolactin gyno it's probably due to something being screwed up with thyroid.
    Some prescription meds cause higher prolactin as well like SSRI's
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    Some prescription meds cause higher prolactin as well like SSRI's
    i've even heard claims that ghrp2 leads to elevated prolactin levels. any input from guys with labs would be awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slappy244 View Post

    i've even heard claims that ghrp2 leads to elevated prolactin levels. any input from guys with labs would be awesome.
    This is correct
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    This is correct
    are we talking about something that can be managed with b6, or should caber be considered?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slappy244 View Post

    are we talking about something that can be managed with b6, or should caber be considered?
    Only slightly elevated along cortisol. So yeah a cortisol inhibitor and something mild for prolactin. Like b6 as u stated or like inhibit-p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post

    Only slightly elevated along cortisol. So yeah a cortisol inhibitor and something mild for prolactin. Like b6 as u stated or like inhibit-p
    Am I the only one who doesn't believe otc prolactin inhibitors or reducers work well enough to be ran with a serious cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post

    Am I the only one who doesn't believe otc prolactin inhibitors or reducers work well enough to be ran with a serious cycle?
    No I feel the same way. The prescription ones r made for a reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Am I the only one who doesn't believe otc prolactin inhibitors or reducers work well enough to be ran with a serious cycle?
    i don't consider ghrp2 to be all that serious.

    i'd laugh my ass off at anyone who would elect to use b6 over rx inhibitors for a tren blast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slappy244 View Post

    i don't consider ghrp2 to be all that serious.

    i'd laugh my ass off at anyone who would elect to use b6 over rx inhibitors for a tren blast.
    Lol 4real
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slappy244 View Post

    i don't consider ghrp2 to be all that serious.

    i'd laugh my ass off at anyone who would elect to use b6 over rx inhibitors for a tren blast.
    "OH MY GAWD WHY I HAS TITTIES" I took plenty of b6 with my tren,and trenazone cycle!


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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    "OH MY GAWD WHY I HAS TITTIES" I took plenty of b6 with my tren,and trenazone cycle!


    Getting tired of seeing things like that...
    i think that's kinda funny honestly. almost as good as the people who ask for advice only to get affirmation that their retarded idea is a good one, then get piss when they catch flames.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slappy244 View Post

    i think that's kinda funny honestly. almost as good as the people who ask for advice only to get affirmation that their retarded idea is a good one, then get piss when they catch flames.
    My fav is "hi im 130 lbs been training for a good 6 months and stopped seeing results! Im 19 y/o and I was thinking of trying halodrol! Tribulus and ecdysterones are my pct. What you think?"

    ....seriously. google and research everything you put in your body people! Especally when its fitness related!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post

    My fav is "hi im 130 lbs been training for a good 6 months and stopped seeing results! Im 19 y/o and I was thinking of trying halodrol! Tribulus and ecdysterones are my pct. What you think?"

    ....seriously. google and research everything you put in your body people! Especally when its fitness related!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post

    My fav is "hi im 130 lbs been training for a good 6 months and stopped seeing results! Im 19 y/o and I was thinking of trying halodrol! Tribulus and ecdysterones are my pct. What you think?"

    ....seriously. google and research everything you put in your body people! Especally when its fitness related!
    Lol this is getting more and more common the last few months along with a lot of "my buddy is thinking of doing this" threads. I can't ever decide whether or not to believe those.
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