Msten/halocor cycle yes or no?
- 11-04-2013, 08:49 PM
Msten/halocor cycle yes or no?
Just need a little help here. I have done 2 previous cycles of Finaflex, but now looking into different ph's. Would stacking these 2 together be to harsh on the liver. I have Protex by Vital Labs for Cycle Support and Vital Labs PCT 3x. Would a serum be a good idea as well for pct? Plan on running Msten at 12/16/20/20. Any help would be great
- 11-04-2013, 09:06 PM
- 11-04-2013, 09:10 PM
Have researched it and some use one and some don't. So that's why I am asking here. For hopefully some legit advice not scrutiny!
11-04-2013, 09:14 PM
Which serum clomid or nolva is better?
11-04-2013, 09:30 PM
11-04-2013, 09:39 PM
In plain English it helps your nuts start producing testosterone again after a cycle.
11-04-2013, 09:52 PM
-Clomid is better at stimulating hpta
-Nolva is not as good for restarting hpta but it also can help prevent gyno
-torem is best because it stimulates hpta as well as Clomid and it works just as well as Nolva in gyno prevention.
-most people have mood swings with Clomid and few have temporary visual changes
-torem has little to no sides but it is more expensive and chances are higher of it being bunk/underdosed.
M-sten will shut you down hard and it takes longer than other PH/DS to recover from. Because of this I recommend torem or a Clomid/Nolva combo.
How do you plan to combat the extreme back pumps and lethargy that most get with m-sten?????
11-05-2013, 07:51 AM
Taurine for the back pumps and the lethargy don't know. Figured on seeing how the cycle goes for the lethargy. Where's the best place to get torem. Saw a lot of different places to get it but what one would be a more pure form of it
11-05-2013, 08:26 AM
It is against forum rules to tell you where to get research chemicals. Google research torem then Google reviews on the companies it pulls up.
11-05-2013, 08:44 AM
I thought about asking where to find stuff after I posted it and thought it was against the rules after sorry. But is there different grades of torem or are they all the same?
11-05-2013, 09:51 AM
You may find different dosages. Example 60mg per ml or 30mg per ml. Other than that they are the same
11-05-2013, 10:17 AM
So, should I stack the Msten with the halocor or use the Msten as a stand alone. I know they are both methyl so in my own mind I an thinking to harsh on the liver and may be a lot to recover from. Your thoughts?
11-05-2013, 10:19 AM
What have you ran to date?
11-05-2013, 10:20 AM
11-05-2013, 10:25 AM
Honestly I don't recommend m-sten to anyone that doesn't know the answers to the questions you are asking.
1. You should wait till 23-24 before running a cycle.
2. You need to have your diet in check.
3. Be experienced in the gym 3-5 years min.
What are your stats? Age, height, weight, experience?
11-05-2013, 10:34 AM
11-05-2013, 10:57 AM
28 years old. 6'3". 190lbs. Clean diet high protein lean meats. Complex and simple carbs. 3 years lifting. Bench press 235x5. Squat 250x2. Military press 170x4. Overhead tricep extension 150x8
11-05-2013, 11:59 AM
11-05-2013, 12:08 PM
The finfaflex 550xd was ok. Didn't notice many gains from the first cycle. So on the 2nd cycle I upped my dosage by 2 extra pill per day. That's when I started noticing gains. Gained about 10lbs. No real sides. Libido was great.
11-05-2013, 03:15 PM
Thank you for your help, tips and advice
11-05-2013, 03:30 PM
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