- 11-04-2013, 07:25 PM
Hey guys I'm going to start an H-Drol cycle.. my first question is, what's better formula, H-drol or H-stane.. i know they are the same but does one perform better then the other? My second question is do I need to use a serm like Liquid clomi, or can I just use something more simple such as Erase or Formasurge. If I do have to use a serm, say I get clomi, 70ml, 35mg/ml, what would it look like, 50/25/25/25. I'm a bit confused though, if it's 35mg/ml, wouldn't I only be taking 1ml or so a day, in which case would last me almost 70 days or am I reading this wrong english isn't greatest
- 11-04-2013, 09:17 PM
If a beginner start 50mg for a 4 week cycle. If not, then 100mg. Expect libido suppression.
SERM should always be on hand. OTC PCT "should" work at 50mg dosage.
Liver support is a must.
What is your previous prohormone experience?
11-04-2013, 10:15 PM
The only thing i've cycled is Dermacrine.. from what I read it's 50/50 some say serm for H-Drol some say not too.. Reading what H-drol is it doesn't sound like you would need one but still. Could you explain to me the dosing for a serm, I'm a bit confused as I explained above. Are there any positive feels to expect, or only lowering of libido?
11-04-2013, 10:56 PM
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11-05-2013, 04:41 PM
I'm going to be clomi, says 70ml, 35mg/ml. So that means one ml = 35mg of clomi? If that's the case I need to be doing around 1.5ml a day? I don't have that high expectations from the H-stane or Clomi.. In all honest I would like to try a strong legit steroid but I don't know enough. One more question, what can I expect to feel from 4-6 weeks of clomi (serm)..
11-05-2013, 06:32 PM
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11-05-2013, 07:29 PM
O just did a 6 week run hdrol with stano(started week 3 at 600 ran 1200 last two weeks) ran hdrol 75 all 6 weeks and loved it. Ran nolva DAA erase pct life support, there a lot of arguing online about nolva vs Clomid next time I'd rather try Clomid but no issues with pct the boys are doin just fine. This was my cycle I added the stano to make sure I didn't have any lethargy or libido issues, next time ill def try bumping hdrol up to 100 and run stano at 1200 all six weeks, I've never felt better strength gains were amazing
11-05-2013, 07:32 PM
I ran a log check it out if this is what you're thinking of, get my fitness pal to track your cals, I thought I was doing ok till I tracked and was off the mark a little. Get joint support of some sort you'll need it over 50 def get taurine for back pumps (I had some nasty forearm pumps too)
11-05-2013, 07:49 PM
11-05-2013, 08:38 PM
Stanodrol, it'll add a little to your gains and help suppress some of the sides from hdrol. Most people wil tell you 4 weeks is about a waste because you really won't see the biggest effects till week 3 with hdrol. I'd save up for a bigger run personally because you won't gain a lot on 4 weeks and won't keep much but hey that's just my 2 cents, go all in if you are going to do it
11-05-2013, 08:51 PM
Stanozol is the sane just the product name from one of the manufacturers its good I always prefer lgi
11-05-2013, 10:23 PM
4 week is really not going to get you much since the effects will kick in after a couple of weeks, if you are on a budget get another bottle of hdrol and forget about the stano.. stano is good for combating lethargy but you won't get much gains off it
11-05-2013, 10:57 PM
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11-06-2013, 12:52 PM
These guys are all right.
Run it 6 weeks. Start at 50 at least then bump to 75 if you feel OK after two weeks or so. Some people go to 100 but expect sides at that dose. I think 75 is the most common sweet spot.
Mdrol is extremely potent and very liver toxic. Not for anyone without years of AAS/DS experience.
Hdrol is probably stronger than you think. I went from benching 225x4 to 225x8 on cycle. Just be realistic. You aren't going to add 2-3 inches to your chest or 1-2 inches on your arms. Maybe an inch in the perfect storm and intense diet and routine.
You are still doing every bit of the work to make the gains... its just a bit easier to gain. Don't expect to magically become jacked. People always say "look at him, he uses roids". When in reality, even with roids, decent size takes years and years of dedication and eating a sh*t ton of delicious animals.
Now go research logs for a while
11-07-2013, 09:33 PM
Well said guys, I'm not in a big rush. I'm going to do this cycle properly, and yes however long I go on cycle for I believe I should have the same off. I'm going to be running the serm for 6 weeks as well right? I work hard, so I know when i see results it's earned but having that boost will definitely help. Thanks again guys.
11-07-2013, 11:19 PM
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