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    Hey guys I'm going to start an H-Drol cycle.. my first question is, what's better formula, H-drol or H-stane.. i know they are the same but does one perform better then the other? My second question is do I need to use a serm like Liquid clomi, or can I just use something more simple such as Erase or Formasurge. If I do have to use a serm, say I get clomi, 70ml, 35mg/ml, what would it look like, 50/25/25/25. I'm a bit confused though, if it's 35mg/ml, wouldn't I only be taking 1ml or so a day, in which case would last me almost 70 days or am I reading this wrong english isn't greatest

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    If a beginner start 50mg for a 4 week cycle. If not, then 100mg. Expect libido suppression.

    SERM should always be on hand. OTC PCT "should" work at 50mg dosage.

    Liver support is a must.

    What is your previous prohormone experience?
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    The only thing i've cycled is Dermacrine.. from what I read it's 50/50 some say serm for H-Drol some say not too.. Reading what H-drol is it doesn't sound like you would need one but still. Could you explain to me the dosing for a serm, I'm a bit confused as I explained above. Are there any positive feels to expect, or only lowering of libido?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blasteryui View Post
    The only thing i've cycled is Dermacrine.. from what I read it's 50/50 some say serm for H-Drol some say not too.. Reading what H-drol is it doesn't sound like you would need one but still. Could you explain to me the dosing for a serm, I'm a bit confused as I explained above. Are there any positive feels to expect, or only lowering of libido?
    I'd do Halfo 50-75mgs for 6 weeks... probably 50mgs x 6 weeks and see how that goes

    pct w serm
    clomi 50/25/25/25
    optional daa / pct assist
    optional reduce xt
    liver assist xt

    pct w/o serm
    inhibit e 3/2/2/1
    daa / pct assist
    liver assist xt
    optional reduce xt
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeekPoop View Post
    I'd do Halfo 50-75mgs for 6 weeks... probably 50mgs x 6 weeks and see how that goes

    pct w serm
    clomi 50/25/25/25
    optional daa / pct assist
    optional reduce xt
    liver assist xt

    pct w/o serm
    inhibit e 3/2/2/1
    daa / pct assist
    liver assist xt
    optional reduce xt
    This. If you are going to run a steroid, make it worth it. 50mg for 4 weeks is going to suck. Especially since you probably have high expectations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeekPoop View Post
    I'd do Halfo 50-75mgs for 6 weeks... probably 50mgs x 6 weeks and see how that goes

    pct w serm
    clomi 50/25/25/25
    optional daa / pct assist
    optional reduce xt
    liver assist xt

    pct w/o serm
    inhibit e 3/2/2/1
    daa / pct assist
    liver assist xt
    optional reduce xt
    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    This. If you are going to run a steroid, make it worth it. 50mg for 4 weeks is going to suck. Especially since you probably have high expectations.

    I'm going to be clomi, says 70ml, 35mg/ml. So that means one ml = 35mg of clomi? If that's the case I need to be doing around 1.5ml a day? I don't have that high expectations from the H-stane or Clomi.. In all honest I would like to try a strong legit steroid but I don't know enough. One more question, what can I expect to feel from 4-6 weeks of clomi (serm)..

    thanks guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blasteryui View Post
    I'm going to be clomi, says 70ml, 35mg/ml. So that means one ml = 35mg of clomi? If that's the case I need to be doing around 1.5ml a day? I don't have that high expectations from the H-stane or Clomi.. In all honest I would like to try a strong legit steroid but I don't know enough. One more question, what can I expect to feel from 4-6 weeks of clomi (serm)..

    thanks guys.
    You can expect to recover with clomid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    You can expect to recover with clomid.
    so regular testosterone levels basically? And was i right about the 1per ml thing or?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blasteryui View Post
    so regular testosterone levels basically? And was i right about the 1per ml thing or?
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    O just did a 6 week run hdrol with stano(started week 3 at 600 ran 1200 last two weeks) ran hdrol 75 all 6 weeks and loved it. Ran nolva DAA erase pct life support, there a lot of arguing online about nolva vs Clomid next time I'd rather try Clomid but no issues with pct the boys are doin just fine. This was my cycle I added the stano to make sure I didn't have any lethargy or libido issues, next time ill def try bumping hdrol up to 100 and run stano at 1200 all six weeks, I've never felt better strength gains were amazing
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    I ran a log check it out if this is what you're thinking of, get my fitness pal to track your cals, I thought I was doing ok till I tracked and was off the mark a little. Get joint support of some sort you'll need it over 50 def get taurine for back pumps (I had some nasty forearm pumps too)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bono1132 View Post
    O just did a 6 week run hdrol with stano(started week 3 at 600 ran 1200 last two weeks) ran hdrol 75 all 6 weeks and loved it. Ran nolva DAA erase pct life support, there a lot of arguing online about nolva vs Clomid next time I'd rather try Clomid but no issues with pct the boys are doin just fine. This was my cycle I added the stano to make sure I didn't have any lethargy or libido issues, next time ill def try bumping hdrol up to 100 and run stano at 1200 all six weeks, I've never felt better strength gains were amazing
    What's Stanozolol? 6 weeks of hdrol, that's two bottles eh, i was hoping to get away with one bottle, 4 weeks not good enough?
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    Stanodrol, it'll add a little to your gains and help suppress some of the sides from hdrol. Most people wil tell you 4 weeks is about a waste because you really won't see the biggest effects till week 3 with hdrol. I'd save up for a bigger run personally because you won't gain a lot on 4 weeks and won't keep much but hey that's just my 2 cents, go all in if you are going to do it
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    Stanozol is the sane just the product name from one of the manufacturers its good I always prefer lgi
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    4 week is really not going to get you much since the effects will kick in after a couple of weeks, if you are on a budget get another bottle of hdrol and forget about the stano.. stano is good for combating lethargy but you won't get much gains off it
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    Quote Originally Posted by bel1 View Post
    4 week is really not going to get you much since the effects will kick in after a couple of weeks, if you are on a budget get another bottle of hdrol and forget about the stano.. stano is good for combating lethargy but you won't get much gains off it
    I felt amazing on stano but one over the other, def go with 6 weeks hdrol other wise you're just not going to get much out of it aside from a few pounds and back pumps then you'll jump on line letting everyone know how it didn't work for you. Just run bioforge or xgels something natty if you don't want to buy two
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    Is Ai Sports life a good liver support for PCT if not what's the cheapest liver support?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bono1132 View Post
    I felt amazing on stano but one over the other, def go with 6 weeks hdrol other wise you're just not going to get much out of it aside from a few pounds and back pumps then you'll jump on line letting everyone know how it didn't work for you. Just run bioforge or xgels something natty if you don't want to buy two
    I bought two, gonna try and cycle them for 6 weeks, at what 2-3 pills a day? If it's 2 a day that's 8 weeks, so I'm guessing 3. I'll be getting the serm, liver support and DAA for PCT.. I' think after I'll try M-Drol since I'll have the experience, or you guys have any other recommendation besides M-Drol?
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    from hdrol to mdrol? wow no please
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    Quote Originally Posted by bel1 View Post
    from hdrol to mdrol? wow no please
    I thought that's was most people did. Is Clomadex a serm btw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blasteryui View Post

    I thought that's was most people did. Is Clomadex a serm btw?
    That is not a serm, not the same as clomid bud. Really the next step up from hdrol would be epi which you could also run stano with, but take baby steps man get this one down first. I think rule of thumb would be time on cycle+pct=time off between cycles so keep focused on this cycle and get it done right lot of people have great results from hdrol.
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    These guys are all right.

    Run it 6 weeks. Start at 50 at least then bump to 75 if you feel OK after two weeks or so. Some people go to 100 but expect sides at that dose. I think 75 is the most common sweet spot.

    Mdrol is extremely potent and very liver toxic. Not for anyone without years of AAS/DS experience.

    Hdrol is probably stronger than you think. I went from benching 225x4 to 225x8 on cycle. Just be realistic. You aren't going to add 2-3 inches to your chest or 1-2 inches on your arms. Maybe an inch in the perfect storm and intense diet and routine.

    You are still doing every bit of the work to make the gains... its just a bit easier to gain. Don't expect to magically become jacked. People always say "look at him, he uses roids". When in reality, even with roids, decent size takes years and years of dedication and eating a sh*t ton of delicious animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6andaHalf View Post
    These guys are all right.

    Run it 6 weeks. Start at 50 at least then bump to 75 if you feel OK after two weeks or so. Some people go to 100 but expect sides at that dose. I think 75 is the most common sweet spot.

    Mdrol is extremely potent and very liver toxic. Not for anyone without years of AAS/DS experience.

    Hdrol is probably stronger than you think. I went from benching 225x4 to 225x8 on cycle. Just be realistic. You aren't going to add 2-3 inches to your chest or 1-2 inches on your arms. Maybe an inch in the perfect storm and intense diet and routine.

    You are still doing every bit of the work to make the gains... its just a bit easier to gain. Don't expect to magically become jacked. People always say "look at him, he uses roids". When in reality, even with roids, decent size takes years and years of dedication and eating a sh*t ton of delicious animals.

    Well said guys, I'm not in a big rush. I'm going to do this cycle properly, and yes however long I go on cycle for I believe I should have the same off. I'm going to be running the serm for 6 weeks as well right? I work hard, so I know when i see results it's earned but having that boost will definitely help. Thanks again guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blasteryui View Post

    Well said guys, I'm not in a big rush. I'm going to do this cycle properly, and yes however long I go on cycle for I believe I should have the same off. I'm going to be running the serm for 6 weeks as well right? I work hard, so I know when i see results it's earned but having that boost will definitely help. Thanks again guys.
    Serm 4 weeks, a.I.product usually run starting week 2 then run it for 4 weeks, I'd run daa all 6 weeks. If you use an all in one like reboot just run it 6 weeks and eun serm 4 keep running liver support
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    Quote Originally Posted by bono1132 View Post
    Serm 4 weeks, a.I.product usually run starting week 2 then run it for 4 weeks, I'd run daa all 6 weeks. If you use an all in one like reboot just run it 6 weeks and eun serm 4 keep running liver support
    I was going to ask what liver support should I use, preferably the cheapest. Do I start taking liver support the moment I take hdrol or leave it for PCT, and how long do I run liver support for?
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    Dude, go read some logs. That is not a question that anyone about to take steroids should be asking. You have months of research ahead of you, sir.

    And the "cheapest" liver protection?? Come on dude...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6andaHalf View Post
    Dude, go read some logs. That is not a question that anyone about to take steroids should be asking. You have months of research ahead of you, sir.

    And the "cheapest" liver protection?? Come on dude...
    It's not going to take months of research to do HDROL lol.. and it wasn't meant to be demeaning I was simply asking what liver support should I use that's on the cheaper end. I'm not going to skip it. I'm on here asking questions so I don't screw anything up. Everytime I read logs it's all 40/40/20/20 there's no actual details most people already seem to have a grasp of what to do. The liver support was my last question that I needed to know and still need to.
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    If you do a little reading you can figure out what 40/40/20/20 means. Really not that hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    If you do a little reading you can figure out what 40/40/20/20 means. Really not that hard.
    Is that my macros?

    40% carbs/ 40% fat/ 20% protein/ 20% alcohol?
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    No no alcohol is one of those 40s for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madripper32 View Post
    No no alcohol is one of those 40s for sure.
    Dang, I knew there was a reason I wasn't gaining weight!
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    Hey bud, I ran life support (cus its pill form) but cycle support by ai is the most popular. If you've waited to start you could wait a couple more weeks and get them on black Friday sales online! Just sayin
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    Quote Originally Posted by blasteryui View Post

    It's not going to take months of research to do HDROL lol.. and it wasn't meant to be demeaning I was simply asking what liver support should I use that's on the cheaper end. I'm not going to skip it. I'm on here asking questions so I don't screw anything up. Everytime I read logs it's all 40/40/20/20 there's no actual details most people already seem to have a grasp of what to do. The liver support was my last question that I needed to know and still need to.
    So you mean you can't seem to find if people take cycle support during the cycle?

    Seems legit...

    Look man, you're going to get tough love in here asking stuff you can find on your own with the correct amount of research needed in this case. Your basically just asking for a how-to summary for cycling synthetic hormones.
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    Lol all i was asking is what do i take for liver support and if i take it on cycle or after and for how long that's it. I know what 40/40/20/20 means.. I was just saying when i read most vlogs that's the style everything is in so I felt i needed to ask a question. I know what I need to do for everything else, including taking life which i have.. does life have enough liver support in it though or is there something you'd recommend. it's not the brand that concerns me but what's the important ingredient(s) that are supporting my liver?
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    Not trying to bash you man. Asking if you take cycle support during or after a cycle shows how little you read, that's all.

    Its literally in every log. It just feels weird to recommend that people start a methylated cycle who seem like they have only been looking into this for a week or so. You make it seem like "whatever dude its just hdrol". People preach how mild it is, and it is compared to dimethyls, but its not mild to a PH noob. It can have serious sides just like all toxic compounds. This is a leap from your topical DHEA cycle.

    Cycle Assist or AMS Super Cycle are both adequate in my experience among others. Compare ingredients with stuff, get your search on. Become knowledgeable before cycling.
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    It may be mild but it def shoots the blood pressure up even on support supps, esp if you don't drink enough water or take any stims so watch for that! Everyone will react differently it'll hit some more than others
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6andaHalf View Post
    Not trying to bash you man. Asking if you take cycle support during or after a cycle shows how little you read, that's all.

    Its literally in every log. It just feels weird to recommend that people start a methylated cycle who seem like they have only been looking into this for a week or so. You make it seem like "whatever dude its just hdrol". People preach how mild it is, and it is compared to dimethyls, but its not mild to a PH noob. It can have serious sides just like all toxic compounds. This is a leap from your topical DHEA cycle.

    Cycle Assist or AMS Super Cycle are both adequate in my experience among others. Compare ingredients with stuff, get your search on. Become knowledgeable before cycling.
    Understandable man. Have you heard of Life? Similiar to Cycle assist? It's by Ai, says it supports liver function, I bough it a while ago for when I was going to do a cycle, i believe it's okay. What's the ingredient that most people tend to use that helps the liver?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blasteryui View Post

    Understandable man. Have you heard of Life? Similiar to Cycle assist? It's by Ai, says it supports liver function, I bough it a while ago for when I was going to do a cycle, i believe it's okay. What's the ingredient that most people tend to use that helps the liver?
    I'm sure its fine. Just compare ingredients and if its close you have nothing to worry about. AI is a brand name
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    okay so one last question should I be taking the support on or or post cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blasteryui View Post
    okay so one last question should I be taking the support on or or post cycle?
    Both is best. On cycle at a minimum.
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