- 11-04-2013, 07:25 PM
Hey guys I'm going to start an H-Drol cycle.. my first question is, what's better formula, H-drol or H-stane.. i know they are the same but does one perform better then the other? My second question is do I need to use a serm like Liquid clomi, or can I just use something more simple such as Erase or Formasurge. If I do have to use a serm, say I get clomi, 70ml, 35mg/ml, what would it look like, 50/25/25/25. I'm a bit confused though, if it's 35mg/ml, wouldn't I only be taking 1ml or so a day, in which case would last me almost 70 days or am I reading this wrong english isn't greatest
- 11-04-2013, 09:17 PM
If a beginner start 50mg for a 4 week cycle. If not, then 100mg. Expect libido suppression.
SERM should always be on hand. OTC PCT "should" work at 50mg dosage.
Liver support is a must.
What is your previous prohormone experience?
- 11-04-2013, 10:15 PM
The only thing i've cycled is Dermacrine.. from what I read it's 50/50 some say serm for H-Drol some say not too.. Reading what H-drol is it doesn't sound like you would need one but still. Could you explain to me the dosing for a serm, I'm a bit confused as I explained above. Are there any positive feels to expect, or only lowering of libido?
11-04-2013, 10:56 PM
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11-05-2013, 04:41 PM
I'm going to be clomi, says 70ml, 35mg/ml. So that means one ml = 35mg of clomi? If that's the case I need to be doing around 1.5ml a day? I don't have that high expectations from the H-stane or Clomi.. In all honest I would like to try a strong legit steroid but I don't know enough. One more question, what can I expect to feel from 4-6 weeks of clomi (serm)..
11-05-2013, 06:32 PM
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11-05-2013, 07:29 PM
O just did a 6 week run hdrol with stano(started week 3 at 600 ran 1200 last two weeks) ran hdrol 75 all 6 weeks and loved it. Ran nolva DAA erase pct life support, there a lot of arguing online about nolva vs Clomid next time I'd rather try Clomid but no issues with pct the boys are doin just fine. This was my cycle I added the stano to make sure I didn't have any lethargy or libido issues, next time ill def try bumping hdrol up to 100 and run stano at 1200 all six weeks, I've never felt better strength gains were amazing
11-05-2013, 07:32 PM
I ran a log check it out if this is what you're thinking of, get my fitness pal to track your cals, I thought I was doing ok till I tracked and was off the mark a little. Get joint support of some sort you'll need it over 50 def get taurine for back pumps (I had some nasty forearm pumps too)
11-05-2013, 07:49 PM
11-05-2013, 08:38 PM
Stanodrol, it'll add a little to your gains and help suppress some of the sides from hdrol. Most people wil tell you 4 weeks is about a waste because you really won't see the biggest effects till week 3 with hdrol. I'd save up for a bigger run personally because you won't gain a lot on 4 weeks and won't keep much but hey that's just my 2 cents, go all in if you are going to do it
11-05-2013, 08:51 PM
Stanozol is the sane just the product name from one of the manufacturers its good I always prefer lgi
11-05-2013, 10:23 PM
4 week is really not going to get you much since the effects will kick in after a couple of weeks, if you are on a budget get another bottle of hdrol and forget about the stano.. stano is good for combating lethargy but you won't get much gains off it
11-05-2013, 10:57 PM
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11-05-2013, 11:10 PM
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11-06-2013, 08:57 AM
11-06-2013, 12:52 PM
These guys are all right.
Run it 6 weeks. Start at 50 at least then bump to 75 if you feel OK after two weeks or so. Some people go to 100 but expect sides at that dose. I think 75 is the most common sweet spot.
Mdrol is extremely potent and very liver toxic. Not for anyone without years of AAS/DS experience.
Hdrol is probably stronger than you think. I went from benching 225x4 to 225x8 on cycle. Just be realistic. You aren't going to add 2-3 inches to your chest or 1-2 inches on your arms. Maybe an inch in the perfect storm and intense diet and routine.
You are still doing every bit of the work to make the gains... its just a bit easier to gain. Don't expect to magically become jacked. People always say "look at him, he uses roids". When in reality, even with roids, decent size takes years and years of dedication and eating a sh*t ton of delicious animals.
Now go research logs for a while
11-07-2013, 09:33 PM
Well said guys, I'm not in a big rush. I'm going to do this cycle properly, and yes however long I go on cycle for I believe I should have the same off. I'm going to be running the serm for 6 weeks as well right? I work hard, so I know when i see results it's earned but having that boost will definitely help. Thanks again guys.
11-07-2013, 11:19 PM
11-14-2013, 08:40 AM
11-14-2013, 08:44 AM
Dude, go read some logs. That is not a question that anyone about to take steroids should be asking. You have months of research ahead of you, sir.
And the "cheapest" liver protection?? Come on dude...
11-14-2013, 04:34 PM
11-14-2013, 06:28 PM
If you do a little reading you can figure out what 40/40/20/20 means. Really not that hard.
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11-14-2013, 07:13 PM
11-14-2013, 07:30 PM
No no alcohol is one of those 40s for sure.
Check out my LG Bulk Kit log.
11-14-2013, 07:31 PM
11-14-2013, 08:08 PM
Hey bud, I ran life support (cus its pill form) but cycle support by ai is the most popular. If you've waited to start you could wait a couple more weeks and get them on black Friday sales online! Just sayin
11-14-2013, 10:12 PM
Look man, you're going to get tough love in here asking stuff you can find on your own with the correct amount of research needed in this case. Your basically just asking for a how-to summary for cycling synthetic hormones.
11-15-2013, 10:57 AM
Lol all i was asking is what do i take for liver support and if i take it on cycle or after and for how long that's it. I know what 40/40/20/20 means.. I was just saying when i read most vlogs that's the style everything is in so I felt i needed to ask a question. I know what I need to do for everything else, including taking life which i have.. does life have enough liver support in it though or is there something you'd recommend. it's not the brand that concerns me but what's the important ingredient(s) that are supporting my liver?
11-16-2013, 12:49 PM
Not trying to bash you man. Asking if you take cycle support during or after a cycle shows how little you read, that's all.
Its literally in every log. It just feels weird to recommend that people start a methylated cycle who seem like they have only been looking into this for a week or so. You make it seem like "whatever dude its just hdrol". People preach how mild it is, and it is compared to dimethyls, but its not mild to a PH noob. It can have serious sides just like all toxic compounds. This is a leap from your topical DHEA cycle.
Cycle Assist or AMS Super Cycle are both adequate in my experience among others. Compare ingredients with stuff, get your search on. Become knowledgeable before cycling.
11-16-2013, 10:59 PM
It may be mild but it def shoots the blood pressure up even on support supps, esp if you don't drink enough water or take any stims so watch for that! Everyone will react differently it'll hit some more than others
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