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    Prepping for my first cycle


    I know a million people post their first cycles on here but that's because regardless of how much research we do we are still newbies. I find it difficult sometimes to find consistency in reviews for obvious reasons (different body compositions, intensity, diet...) I just want to lay out what I'm thinking and get some good honest feedback. I appreciate you taking the time to even read my post.
    Me: 27 years old, 6'5", 210, 4 consistent years of heavy lifting (I started as a twig), Never drink or smoke, clean diet.
    Goal: Gain/Bulk I just want to get big. I am currently out of work so the gym is my office, I won't be messing around with my lifts. I would love to hit 220/230 if possible.

    I'm between Methastadrol by Hard Rock Supplements (Although the testes shutting down is my biggest worry) and Competitive Edge Labs H-DROL. Are these too "intense" to be starting with? I completely understand starting small but I also want to get the most out of my cycle. Let me know what you think.

    During my cycle I'm thinking of using Anabolic Design's Liver Milk

    PCT: Man Sports Nolvadren-XT

    Also, part of the reason why I'm choosing these products is the store I'm buying from (I moved and need to ship internationally to Poland) has a small selection and these seemed to be the right choices after a lot of research, but I'm hear open for criticism. I want to do this right, I appreciate your help!

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    H drol is halodrol clone. Good for first time cycles from what I understand. You are gonna want a seem and a good post cycle supplement. Nova, clomid, something like that with post cycle so you don't rebound and get gyno or anything. Maybe some hawthorn berry on cycle as well if you have a high bp.
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    Ok great, thanks for the help. I'll prob stick with the Hdrol, and I'll work on better pct and serm. No point in rushing this. I just want to get it right.
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    This is usually my recommendations for most PH cycles

    50 - 75 mgs for 4-6 weeks
    liver assist xt or cel cycle assist during the cycle

    pct w serm
    clomi 50/25/25/25
    with option of cel pct assist or daa

    pct w/o serm
    inhibit e 3/2/2/1
    with cel pct assist or daa
    optional reduce xt
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeekPoop View Post
    This is usually my recommendations for most PH cycles 50 - 75 mgs for 4-6 weeks liver assist xt or cel cycle assist during the cycle pct w serm clomi 50/25/25/25 with option of cel pct assist or daa pct w/o serm inhibit e 3/2/2/1 with cel pct assist or daa optional reduce xt
    Is there a specific PH you would recommend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jades1120 View Post
    Is there a specific PH you would recommend?
    I always reccomend hdrol or epi. Mainly because I've used both these a few times, and they've lived up to their expectations.
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    Excellent. Thanks for all the help!
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    Skip the PH and do an injectable cycle jmo
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    Quote Originally Posted by antmike View Post
    Skip the PH and do an injectable cycle jmo
    smh
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    Hdrol isn't technically a pH. Really its just an oral steroid. Something a lot of guys don't realize. But it is good for a first time cycle. Lots of gains and minimal sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmitch View Post
    Hdrol isn't technically a pH. Really its just an oral steroid. Something a lot of guys don't realize. But it is good for a first time cycle. Lots of gains and minimal sides.
    Very true
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmitch View Post
    Hdrol isn't technically a pH. Really its just an oral steroid. Something a lot of guys don't realize. But it is good for a first time cycle. Lots of gains and minimal sides.
    Quote Originally Posted by antmike View Post
    Very true
    so how does this change anything about dosing or pct? seems completely irrelevant other than terminology
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    It is irrelevant I think he was just referring to my "skip the PH" comment
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    Quote Originally Posted by antmike View Post
    It is irrelevant I think he was just referring to my "skip the PH" comment
    than why post irrelevant things? doesn't help anyone.

    not everyone can get inj or wants to. It's like someone asking what type of car they should buy, and you suggesting ride a horse instead. just stupid
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeekPoop View Post
    than why post irrelevant things? doesn't help anyone.

    not everyone can get inj or wants to. It's like someone asking what type of car they should buy, and you suggesting ride a horse instead. just stupid
    Says why post irrelevant things then continues with his own irrelevant post. If the guy doesn't wanna inject I don't care he can do what ever he feels best.
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    All I'm saying is it is an oral steroid. Which is completely different from pro hormone. Gonna be different results. Different side effects. Serm is a must. Especially on hdrol. Because the change of estrogen rebound is so much higher.
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    Hdrol pretty much is an oral steroid as it's conversion to tbol is way to low to produce the gains it does. So hdrol itself is already active in pill form. Hdrol was my first cycle and I loved it. The lethargy was bad on it though. I'd suggest real nolva for pct ( tamoxifen citrate).
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    Thanks for all the input guys. Yeah I'm def not ready for an injectable. Like I said this is my first cycle so taking it slow and trying to do it right. You have all been a lot of help. Now time to shop!
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