Another first cycle thread
- 10-18-2013, 04:03 PM
Another first cycle thread
First some back info on me.
Been lifting for 4-5yrs am now 30. Height is 6'2" weight is 218 around 14% body fat. I would like to gain some lean muscle 5-7lbs (more would be great). I consume around 150g of protein a day via food mostly, I take a shake any day I don't hit that mark with food.
I want to keep this very basic so here is what I have come up with, please critique.
6 week cycle
epidrol - 50/50/50/50/50/50
pct - 50/50/50/50 - clomid
I've heard clomid can cause bad acne, anyone experienced this? Is there really anything else I will need?
- 10-18-2013, 05:43 PM
10-18-2013, 05:58 PM
10-18-2013, 07:31 PM
Okay I can knock the epi down to 40mg, and clomid taper off the last two weeks. Yeah I can add DAA while on pct. Actually would be ok to run DAA during cycle and pct? I will be sure to hit 200g of protein per day during cycle. As for cycle support what are some easily attainable quality ones?
10-18-2013, 07:46 PM
week or two since this is your first cycle, then bump to 40mgs.
Daa can be run on cycle as well as pct. If libido or lethargy problems occur thenbi would add the DAA.
You neef to shoot for 1.5-2g of protein per lb of bodyweight.
Reduce xt is a great addition to pct especially if you add stims
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10-18-2013, 07:56 PM
10-18-2013, 08:22 PM
10-18-2013, 09:13 PM
10-19-2013, 09:36 AM
From all the suggestions I came up with this
6 wk cycle
epi - 30/40/50/50/50/50
daa - 0/0/0/3/3/3
milk thistle and cycle support during
daa - 3/3/3/3
10-19-2013, 10:08 AM
Clomid 50/50/25/25 (mg)
Erase 0/0/3/2/2/1/1 (caps)
Or at least something of that sort where you taper the ai a week or two past the length of your serm to prevent estrogen rebound
Other than that the cycle looks pretty good. Just be educated about symptoms and know what helps them just in case of emergency. During my epi/tren cycle my Bp was so high that I'd get nosebleeds just from a hot shower. Picked up some Coq-10 and it took care of it immediately.
10-19-2013, 11:14 AM
10-19-2013, 12:32 PM
Add a DAA or NMDA product such as Intimidate SRT to PCT as they work most effectively when test levels are already low.
10-19-2013, 01:32 PM
10-19-2013, 02:39 PM
Thanks all, going to gather up all the materials and do some more research on side effects and symptoms to look out for.
10-19-2013, 10:50 PM
I'd definitely be getting some hawthorn berry, celery seed extract or coq10 for bp. Preload all your supports for two weeks prior to starting your cycle.
Also deff agree with adding DAA and erase in pct, i wouldn't think DAA on cycle would be very efficient as your body's natural levels will be suppressed. If you do start to notice, lethargy or libido issues add in some stano or dermicrine.
10-19-2013, 11:20 PM
Torem is supposed to be the new hot ticket for pct especially for mild sides compared to clomid read up on it.
10-19-2013, 11:33 PM
10-20-2013, 01:40 AM
I understand what your talking about wanting to know what works I have used both though and for me they both work great and at a fraction of the cost if I bought them individually.
10-20-2013, 04:09 AM
01-23-2014, 12:06 PM
So gentlemen thank you for all your advice, I have purchased everything for my cycle except the SERM. I'm having a hard time finding a place to purchase it and I don't know if I should get it in liquid or pill form, I was going to go with Torem. So far I have purchased the epi, AI erase and DAA. Is there anyone that can help me out?
01-23-2014, 12:44 PM
Fyi-we can not directly tell you where to go! It's against the rules of this forum. Google is your best friend.
01-24-2014, 12:59 PM
Okay thanks for the information, I will try and look for some Nolva or Clomid. If I do purchase pill form what dosage is recommended? I noticed most pills come in 100mg caps.
01-24-2014, 01:09 PM
I'm a first timer too but i'm 37 years old. I was looking into doing a mild first cycle and wondered why you went with Epi instead of Halodrol? Can you let me know?
01-24-2014, 01:09 PM
If you're getting clomid go for 50mg pills... This way when you taper dosage to 25 just split them in half. I have never purchased nolva in pill form so I'm not sure what it comes in but personally I like clomid better anyway
02-24-2014, 03:22 PM
I didn't want to start a new thread so I will update this one. I have a unique situation and would like some advice. I decided to go get my testosterone checked before I started my epi cycle. Results came back and i was 297 ng/dl when the normal range on the lab results said 300-1080 ng/dl. This took me totally by surprise because I felt I do a lot of things that increase testosterone naturally. I exercise 5x a week, do not eat soy, eat healthy fats, higher than average protein diet. My doctor recommended I do all those things that I am already doing, so his final answer was to decrease my stress. Anyways the next week I started my cycle, but during week 2 I decided to go to another doctor to do one more testosterone check, came back 292...this doctor recommended TRT since my test was really low for my age (30) and lifestyle.
Here is my question, if I decide to do TRT how should I end my epi cycle?
OP decides to do epi cycle
OP gets T checked before cycle, it is low, OP is shocked
OP's doctor says decrease stress, OP gets second opinion this doctor recommends TRT
OP doesn't know how to drop off epi cycle safely
02-25-2014, 02:11 PM
02-25-2014, 03:41 PM
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