- 10-15-2013, 10:26 AM
What is the best epi clone in your opinion??? Right now I am debating between Havoc or E-stane. I am planning on running it for 4 weeks at 20/30/30/40 and then following it up with a pct of liquid tamox and finaflex black. Also, will be taking fish oil, protein and creatine!
Is it dangerous/risky to run epi/dmz together? I have taken both by themselves but never together. I was curious as to what you guys think about possibly doing this?
- 10-15-2013, 11:27 AM
Did you really see any gains from epi at 20 or 30?
I can see running it that low stacked with something, maybe.
So yes, you could run DMZ with it but it's just like running any 2 methyls, its going to be a toxic run. As you know Epi will make you strong as sh*t, usually. DMZ is more geared towards body composition and mild strength.
How did your solo runs go?
10-15-2013, 12:08 PM
I ran epi starting at 40mg and worked up to 70.... Depending on your size.... Bump that dosing up man or at least experiment with it
10-15-2013, 01:47 PM
I have ran an epistane/stanozolol stacked ph called Raptor 2(griffin labs) in the past, it was 20mg epi /50 mg stano per pill and it said to take 3 times a day. I thought 60 mg of epi was far to much so for the first two weeks only did twice a day and the last two weeks did the 60 mg. As far as strength and weight gain, I didn't really get much of anything except an insane pump for a couple weeks. I don't believe the epi was very good quality, especially with the supplier not being very well known. So this time I plan to go with a very reputable clone Havoc.
I had much more luck with the DMZ clone I took by War Pharma, called DMZ LOAD, that stuff made me gain about 15 lbs in 4 weeks and made me strong as an ox! I managed to hang on to about 7-10 lbs of solid weight when I came off of it as well.
Although I had great results on the DMZ I was hoping to give a more reputable clone of epi a run to see if how I respond it. Who knows, my body just may not respond to the epi like some of you do. But, I will also reconsider what I run it at, maybe 30/40/40/40 maybe a better route to go with the epi, but if I stack it with DMZ I will obviously run the epi lower. I was just hoping for some input from anybody with experience running them both together.
10-15-2013, 02:16 PM
I'm running epi-strong by mr supps. So far I'm loving it. To me, it compares to OG ibe epi.
I'd recommend running epi at at least 40 mgs. I'm currently at 45 mgs and finding that to be my sweet spot.
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10-15-2013, 02:42 PM
Today is literally day one so I'll tell you next week. I want to go to 70 but I'll see how I feel. I'm hoping dermacrine can ward off some of the lethargy I've dealt with in the past when I've tried to go over 40mg
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10-16-2013, 10:25 AM
I've run Havoc and LGI Epi-10.
According to Greg, LGI sources the same raws as Havoc. They both worked great for me. I ran it at 40mg the whole cycle.
10-17-2013, 07:17 PM
I'm going to start the first week at 30mg of havoc.....my only question is how should I time the dosages....each pill is 10mg epi.....1 in the morning, 1 at lunch time, 1 at dinner??
10-17-2013, 09:52 PM
10-18-2013, 10:59 AM
This allows you to dose your support supp 4 hrs after so it doesn't hinder absorption. You don't want to dose cycle support near the PH dose at all.
8am x2 Epi
12 noon Support supp
4pm x1 Epi
8pm Support supp
01-23-2014, 07:31 AM
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