- 10-17-2013, 08:35 PM
Cutting during PCT isn't a recommended practice. PCT is the time to solidify gains. You may not lose all of your gains with your herbal homeopathic PCT. Gains should be the least of your worries though, your shutdown HPTA system should be your worry. Research negative feedback loop and find out why your balls are shrinking. Then research clomid and how it is used to essentially "reboot" the HPTA (there are other SERMs, but I don't feel like mentioning all of them).
Most any cycle of methylated compounds is going to shut you down. Sure, some people come out fine, or think they did because they feel no ill effects initially. Bloodwork is the only true way to see if you've recovered. There's a lot of parrots on here that are gonna say "no SERM, no cycle" because that's what their bro told them. There's others on here that say that because they did it, and fcuked themselves up. Either way, it's the "safer route".
As far as cutting cals, I wouldn't do that until after PCT, but that's just my $.02.
- 10-17-2013, 09:05 PM
- 10-17-2013, 09:40 PM
You are the one asking for help about how much DMZ you should be taking and a everything because you aren't gaining. Everyone is different in different parts of the cycle. Going to 60 helped me but honestly man, 60mg and no SERM may not be the brightest idea. It doesn't matter if people used to do it. People did a lot of stupid sh*t. Its 2013, just explore your recourses next time. You obviously care about results so do more research next time.
You aren't just going to be a new man after a cycle. I had that mindset and was disappointed. You have to understand it is just a little boost that you must capitalize on. PCT is the end all be all. Equally important as the cycle if not more important because its far more challenging than gaining from PH in the first place. I would not cut cals at a in PCT.
I think you are more knowledgeable than it first appeared so just keep focused. I'd prob throw together a serious OTC concoction of you won't buy a SERM.Currently logging: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/236161-dymethazine-4-ad.html
10-17-2013, 09:54 PM
10-17-2013, 10:21 PM
10-17-2013, 10:25 PM
10-17-2013, 10:40 PM
Honestly, once you have done DMZ any other PH that is weak enough for a sufficient OTC post cycle would seem like nothing. I was lazy on the SERM thing too my first time but its really easy man. I should not have hesitated. Just takes a few weeks to arrive most the time so be sure to have it before yoy start another harsh compound... if you do.
I did 2 AMS Growth Kits back to back in 6 weeks and got ok results and ran OTC post cycle. Honestly, in my experience it wasnt any better than running Triazole/Activate Xtreme/daa. Sounds crazy but that natty run actually gave me a little insomnia and crazy dreams like some people get from PHs. I also got almost as strong as I did on hdrol.
Currently logging: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/236161-dymethazine-4-ad.html
10-17-2013, 11:06 PM
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