- 10-17-2013, 03:42 PM
- 10-17-2013, 04:01 PM
Toaster stroots would kick a pop tart's ass in a street fight.
And you can make sweet icing designs.
- 10-17-2013, 04:03 PM
10-17-2013, 04:10 PM
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10-17-2013, 04:13 PM
And no, I don't eat chicken and brown rice all day because, for me, it's not practical. My diet certainly isn't perfect, but I've spent a lot of time researching it and I'm happy with the trade offs I've made. My standard workout is around 6pm and (watch me get flamed for this) in the run up to it, I've had a decent lunch at 1.30pm, a protein shake (38g protein, 250 cals) at 4.30pm, BCAA's, Kre-Alk and Fish Oil at 5.15pm all washed down with a pint of fresh OJ. It's crude, but it works for me.
As soon as I'm out, it's more OJ immediately with BCAA's and Kre-Alk while I make dinner (2 portions brown rice with either beef, lamb or chicken and some streamed veg) and then another shake before bed about 10pm. Hey, it's not perfect, but including shakes I'm packing in 6 meals a day, 240+g protein a day, and I'm getting carbs when I need them.
There are guys here who can nail your diet for you if you want to be a pro. There's also a forum dedicated to nutrition you should have been reading flat out and getting your own set up perfected by people until you're happy.
I'm not being a dick and I've said to you before, ask as many questions as you want; I doubt people will have a go at you for honestly trying to gain knowledge. But you have to be honest about what you're doing, what you're taking and what your (genuine) experience level is. Trust me on this because I've been there and wasted a fortune, unless you get your training, diet and rest sorted first, you're wasting your money big time with PH's/AAS.
10-17-2013, 04:15 PM
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10-17-2013, 04:37 PM
400g of protein for te gainz.
Chicken and brown rice and that's it.
Protein shake and bcaas right after workout gain more muscle.
6-8 meals a day= gainz
Creatine with sugar or else it doesn't work.
Science has disproved all of this stuff sir.
10-17-2013, 04:37 PM
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10-17-2013, 04:51 PM
Also the hodge twins don't do any of that bro science anymore. They make sure they hit 160g of protein a day and make sure they hit their macros and they eat whatever they want to fill it. Tey don't do any of that broscience. Looks like it's working for them.
10-17-2013, 04:52 PM
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10-17-2013, 06:20 PM
You won't gain any extra WEIGHT if you hit you cals via sh*t food. It will however have a drastic impact on what your weight is made up of. Hit your cals by eating twinkies and ho hos and you will stay the same weight... and you'll also have the consistency of a bag of lard.
What do you care anyway? You're about to lose any gains you made as it is. Hope your pop tarts have Clomid in them. No amount of food, good or sh*tty, is going to keep muscle on you in your PCT.
10-17-2013, 07:31 PM
From my considerable time on AM, I'd wager that 90% of the people who say "diet is in check" are totally full of shyt. I don't think this is any different; you think you're following IIFYM, you think everything posted in response to your issue is bro science, so why even ask?
You have no idea how to run a cycle, yet here you are wondering why your piss poor planning isn't working like magic fairy muscle dust.
If you're trolling, you win, you got me. If not, pull the fawking needle out of your ass and figure out how to eat & train.
I'm out, fawk this thread.
Don't worry, man, someday I'ma be nobody too.
10-17-2013, 07:36 PM
10-17-2013, 07:39 PM
10-17-2013, 07:42 PM
I track every calorie and macro exactly. I don't just "eat a lot" and actually get 2k calories a day.
I use myfitnesspal btw
10-17-2013, 07:56 PM
Damn, every time I turn and take a glance at a thread, I see you wanting answers and then arguing with them. Nice first month here. Stop trolling or start learning. Please.
10-17-2013, 08:00 PM
10-17-2013, 08:05 PM
But it may be your training and diet that are causing you to stall. Ya' dig?
Diet and programming play a large role in progression, even when on the sauce.
10-17-2013, 08:09 PM
Weird, because I love getting to the bottom of issues by utilizing those here that are more knowledgeable than I on aas, competition, training and diet. It must be a combination of humility and desire to learn. Because I don't know everything.
10-17-2013, 08:39 PM
I've seen some of the more experienced loggers here talk about eating foods that pack way more fat and empty calories than some ****ing pop tarts. Ever see Jay Cutlers fat ass off season? Plus he's using dimethazine....poptarts here and there arent going to make him fat as long as he's not going overboard. I'm sorry but some of the biggest bodybuilders eat literal shyt. To bulk up. If you don't know that then I don't know what to tell you. Could ATD bring his test levels back to normal? Its possible but a serm is best
10-17-2013, 08:54 PM
I did increase the dosage and I'm doing it mainly to get my cycle over with faster so I can cut.
The thing I'm worried about is keeping gains now. People are saying without a SERM you lose all gains but that can't be true. Granted I would keep more probably with a SERM but I've seen logs of OTC and they turn out fine. As long as I don't run a harsh cycle like dmz again with OTC I should be fine hopefully?
Also how long after the last dose of the cycle should I safely be able to drop the calories and cut? 1 month?
10-17-2013, 09:32 PM
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