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  1. Quote Originally Posted by 6andaHalf View Post
    Well its better than nothing but good grief man...

    You would have kept more gains doing 4-5 weeks of Hdrol and then running your Kmart pct.

    I learned the hard way too so good luck. Lift hard and force feed haha
    I go to bed about to throw up every night about. I have to sit in bed and wait for the food to digest till I can roll over.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Snicket63 View Post
    Well the white box says serving size 1 capsule sooo dunno. I'm confused. It looks like this product will absolutely smash estrogen.
    You sure you should be messing around with hormonal supplements mate? I've been there and it's tempting but, trust me, it takes more than a little time to get it right, and you need to start from a decent knowledge base of training and diet first. I dived straight in and regret it big style. Are you already in cycle, or have you not started yet?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Number 10 View Post
    You sure you should be messing around with hormonal supplements mate? I've been there and it's tempting but, trust me, it takes more than a little time to get it right, and you need to start from a decent knowledge base of training and diet first. I dived straight in and regret it big style. Are you already in cycle, or have you not started yet?
    I'm 2 weeks from pct.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Number 10 View Post
    You sure you should be messing around with hormonal supplements mate? I've been there and it's tempting but, trust me, it takes more than a little time to get it right, and you need to start from a decent knowledge base of training and diet first. I dived straight in and regret it big style. Are you already in cycle, or have you not started yet?
    Its too late, he's going to learn the expensive way. Sh*t ain't cheap to throw it all away in PCT... Buh-bye!!!

    He seems to think "smashing estrogen" is what will save him but he will just be rocking super painful joints and a limp flipper to compliment his loss of gains.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by 6andaHalf View Post
    He seems to think "smashing estrogen" is what will save him but he will just be rocking super painful joints and a limp flipper to compliment his loss of gains.
    Some of the posts here crack me up!!
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Snicket63 View Post
    I go to bed about to throw up every night about. I have to sit in bed and wait for the food to digest till I can roll over.
    Mate, what are you eating?! Seriously, and I don't mean this as in I'm having a go at all, but I messed around with PH's a few years ago, and since then I've gone away and spent a LOT of time reading and researching and planning my second proper cycle, which is up here now somewhere being pulled apart, before I buy the stuff I need and start it next year.

    A hint for next time, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, plan the whole thing down to the smallest detail before you spend anything. That way, if your budget can't stretch, you'll know it in advance and can make alterations, and if you can't get something you need to run a safe cycle, you won't be halfway through trashing your endocrine system before you realise.

    Do some research, ask as many questions as you want, put your cycle up here and get it critiqued, and then once it's right, smash it and enjoy the rewards.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Number 10 View Post

    Mate, what are you eating?! Seriously, and I don't mean this as in I'm having a go at all, but I messed around with PH's a few years ago, and since then I've gone away and spent a LOT of time reading and researching and planning my second proper cycle, which is up here now somewhere being pulled apart, before I buy the stuff I need and start it next year.

    A hint for next time, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, plan the whole thing down to the smallest detail before you spend anything. That way, if your budget can't stretch, you'll know it in advance and can make alterations, and if you can't get something you need to run a safe cycle, you won't be halfway through trashing your endocrine system before you realise.

    Do some research, ask as many questions as you want, put your cycle up here and get it critiqued, and then once it's right, smash it and enjoy the rewards.
    He eats poptarts. It's his go-to pre-workout meal. I didn't make that up. Read his post

  8. Don't you know pop tarts preserve muscle because they are filled with preservatives brah

  9. Dude doesn't have a legitimate reason why he "can't" get a serm. There easily attainable...
    Psalms 62:1-62:2

  10. Quote Originally Posted by rphash49 View Post
    He eats poptarts. It's his go-to pre-workout meal.
    Me too. The chocolate peanut butter ones. It's fun to eat the candy coating first.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by rphash49 View Post
    He eats poptarts. It's his go-to pre-workout meal. I didn't make that up. Read his post
    ... And poptarts are bad why? Carbs are good pre workout. Also poptarts are 400 callories a pack. Good bulking food since I have to eat 4k calories.
    I assume you eat chicken and brown rice every day because its "healthy"?

  12. Toaster stroots would kick a pop tart's ass in a street fight.

    And you can make sweet icing designs.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Snicket63 View Post

    ... And poptarts are bad why? Carbs are good pre workout. Also poptarts are 400 callories a pack. Good bulking food since I have to eat 4k calories.
    I assume you eat chicken and brown rice every day because its "healthy"?
    All carbs are not created equal. Poptarts are not the good kind lmao. Dirty bulk much?

    My go to carbs come from:
    Oat meal
    Brown rice
    Black beans
    Vegetables
    Fruit
    Quinoa
    Sweet potato

    rare but I sometime go to whole wheat breads, whole wheat pasta

  14. Quote Originally Posted by rphash49 View Post
    All carbs are not created equal. Poptarts are not the good kind lmao. Dirty bulk much?

    My go to carbs come from:
    Oat meal
    Brown rice
    Black beans
    Vegetables
    Fruit
    Quinoa
    Sweet potato

    rare but I sometime go to whole wheat breads, whole wheat pasta
    I know I know but as long as I'm not eating to many callories I won't gain extra fat by just eating different carbs. (As science says) but I've read on forums that you need good "clean foods" ( bro science). So idk what to believe. I rather eat easier foods on a bulk and eat foods that fill me up on a cut. Nomsayin?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by 6andaHalf View Post
    Toaster stroots would kick a pop tart's ass in a street fight.

    And you can make sweet icing designs.
    I eat some of dem also l0l

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Snicket63 View Post

    ... And poptarts are bad why? Carbs are good pre workout. Also poptarts are 400 callories a pack. Good bulking food since I have to eat 4k calories.
    I assume you eat chicken and brown rice every day because its "healthy"?
    Mate, I think the point that people are getting at is that you're perhaps not sorted yet on your diet etc so you shouldn't be jumping into anabolics. It probably is 400 cals (I genuinely have no idea) but it's probably not an ideal preworkout meal.

    And no, I don't eat chicken and brown rice all day because, for me, it's not practical. My diet certainly isn't perfect, but I've spent a lot of time researching it and I'm happy with the trade offs I've made. My standard workout is around 6pm and (watch me get flamed for this) in the run up to it, I've had a decent lunch at 1.30pm, a protein shake (38g protein, 250 cals) at 4.30pm, BCAA's, Kre-Alk and Fish Oil at 5.15pm all washed down with a pint of fresh OJ. It's crude, but it works for me.

    As soon as I'm out, it's more OJ immediately with BCAA's and Kre-Alk while I make dinner (2 portions brown rice with either beef, lamb or chicken and some streamed veg) and then another shake before bed about 10pm. Hey, it's not perfect, but including shakes I'm packing in 6 meals a day, 240+g protein a day, and I'm getting carbs when I need them.

    There are guys here who can nail your diet for you if you want to be a pro. There's also a forum dedicated to nutrition you should have been reading flat out and getting your own set up perfected by people until you're happy.

    I'm not being a dick and I've said to you before, ask as many questions as you want; I doubt people will have a go at you for honestly trying to gain knowledge. But you have to be honest about what you're doing, what you're taking and what your (genuine) experience level is. Trust me on this because I've been there and wasted a fortune, unless you get your training, diet and rest sorted first, you're wasting your money big time with PH's/AAS.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Snicket63 View Post
    I know I know but as long as I'm not eating to many callories I won't gain extra fat by just eating different carbs. (As science says) but I've read on forums that you need good "clean foods" ( bro science). So idk what to believe. I rather eat easier foods on a bulk and eat foods that fill me up on a cut. Nomsayin?
    Are you Pharreeel?!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Number 10 View Post
    Mate, I think the point that people are getting at is that you're perhaps not sorted yet on your diet etc so you shouldn't be jumping into anabolics. It probably is 400 cals (I genuinely have no idea) but it's probably not an ideal preworkout meal.

    And no, I don't eat chicken and brown rice all day because, for me, it's not practical. My diet certainly isn't perfect, but I've spent a lot of time researching it and I'm happy with the trade offs I've made. My standard workout is around 6pm and (watch me get flamed for this) in the run up to it, I've had a decent lunch at 1.30pm, a protein shake (38g protein, 250 cals) at 4.30pm, BCAA's, Kre-Alk and Fish Oil at 5.15pm all washed down with a pint of fresh OJ. It's crude, but it works for me.

    As soon as I'm out, it's more OJ immediately with BCAA's and Kre-Alk while I make dinner (2 portions brown rice with either beef, lamb or chicken and some streamed veg) and then another shake before bed about 10pm. Hey, it's not perfect, but including shakes I'm packing in 6 meals a day, 240+g protein a day, and I'm getting carbs when I need them.

    There are guys here who can nail your diet for you if you want to be a pro. There's also a forum dedicated to nutrition you should have been reading flat out and getting your own set up perfected by people until you're happy.

    I'm not being a dick and I've said to you before, ask as many questions as you want; I doubt people will have a go at you for honestly trying to gain knowledge. But you have to be honest about what you're doing, what you're taking and what your (genuine) experience level is. Trust me on this because I've been there and wasted a fortune, unless you get your training, diet and rest sorted first, you're wasting your money big time with PH's/AAS.
    Well I track my macros and that's all I track. I don't care about food. I don't want to be pro. I just want to be strongest around my area (shouldn't be to hard) and I want to look like zyzz but maybe a bit bigger. My traning diet and rest is in check. I never miss a workout ever. And I always track macros. I force feed if I don't hit them at night. I went from 140-200 in 1 year just by eating n lifting.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Number 10 View Post
    Are you Pharreeel?!
    Strait up g :/

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Snicket63 View Post

    Strait up g :/
    I've read some of your other posts and, to be honest champ, you're an imbecile...

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Number 10 View Post
    I've read some of your other posts and, to be honest champ, you're an imbecile...
    Because I don't spit bro science?
    400g of protein for te gainz.
    Chicken and brown rice and that's it.
    Protein shake and bcaas right after workout gain more muscle.
    6-8 meals a day= gainz
    Creatine with sugar or else it doesn't work.
    Science has disproved all of this stuff sir.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Number 10 View Post
    I've read some of your other posts and, to be honest champ, you're an imbecile...
    He's trolling.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    He's trolling.
    Did he honestly think that "strait up g" was serious?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Snicket63 View Post
    I know I know but as long as I'm not eating to many callories I won't gain extra fat by just eating different carbs. (As science says) but I've read on forums that you need good "clean foods" ( bro science). So idk what to believe. I rather eat easier foods on a bulk and eat foods that fill me up on a cut. Nomsayin?
    Eating "clean foods" healthy foods is not bro science. Honestly it's common sense that anyone with half a brain should to some level understand. For example your body is able to use and process sugars from fruits much much better than processed sugar in a poptart.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by rphash49 View Post
    Eating "clean foods" healthy foods is not bro science. Honestly it's common sense that anyone with half a brain should to some level understand. For example your body is able to use and process sugars from fruits much much better than processed sugar in a poptart.
    I don't eat poptarts and sugar cubes all day. I don't think you need to be so strict with your diet unless your a pro. I eat a lot of fruits also. I eat poptarts when I need the callories.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    He's trolling.
    I'm now genuinely confused (noob to the boards).

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  28. Quote Originally Posted by Number 10 View Post
    I'm now genuinely confused (noob to the boards).
    I wasn't serious when I said "strait up g".
    Also the hodge twins don't do any of that bro science anymore. They make sure they hit 160g of protein a day and make sure they hit their macros and they eat whatever they want to fill it. Tey don't do any of that broscience. Looks like it's working for them.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Number 10 View Post
    I'm now genuinely confused (noob to the boards).
    Trolling= posting BS to get a rise or reaction out of others.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    Trolling= posting BS to get a rise or reaction out of others.
    Is this whole thing BS, or is he genuinely an idiot?
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