tjbruno
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Just curious about your guys reasoning/story behind going enhanced? Was it for a competition? Your friends did it? Felt like it?
This made me chuckle.I hated my physique. Figure they'd make it better. Still hate my physique.
poor guy. I had to chuckle too. Sorry budThis made me chuckle.
I'm in the same boat brother. And outside of skewed competition rules and such, I'm sure most of us consider being natural as not altering your hormones.I'm 25. I have about 5 years of youth until I'm expected to "settle down." I can spend 3+ years working out and achieve my natty max then, or I can do it in a year with AAS.
because I was too impatient to take the time to do it. my first cycle was just a testing for the stuff, when I saw the potential, I went all in and BOOM!. don't regret it, but do wish I had waited longer.Just curious about your guys reasoning/story behind going enhanced? Was it for a competition? Your friends did it? Felt like it?
it is addicting mentally. cause when you are "on cycle" you feel like king kong (even though you know you aint the only one on) and that same feeling is damn near impossible to achieve naturally.I'm in the same boat brother. And outside of skewed competition rules and such, I'm sure most of us consider being natural as not altering your hormones.
I'm not sure I truly buy into "genetic potential" even though I'm aware you can't attain a certain look without help. I'm nervous of the dependency I could form. I don't want to be "on" for life, but I also don't want to deal with the mental mind**** of pct.
:laugh: i think i fit in this category tooI hated my physique. Figure they'd make it better. Still hate my physique.
Pretty much sums it up for mebecause I was too impatient to take the time to do it. my first cycle was just a testing for the stuff, when I saw the potential, I went all in and BOOM!. don't regret it, but do wish I had waited longer.
my fault man, really not trying to brag or anything, got nothing to brag about. just curious how people came to the conclusion it was time.I'm "natural" in that, my body makes testosterone, and then I add some extra. Doesn't fix any problems with my diet or training though. Anyways, I have no hate, but bragging "natty" is the same in bodybuilding as it is in childbearing. It makes no sense to me to brag your "natty" when there's an epidural and drugs 40 feet from you, just for the sake of bragging.
I plan to compete someday.Just curious about your guys reasoning/story behind going enhanced? Was it for a competition? Your friends did it? Felt like it?
I don't :smoker:I plan to compete someday.
My only competition is myself. But I definitely agree that there is no replacement for eating well and resting.I plan to compete someday.
I will say some people call creatine un natural. So I've been unnatural for a whileMy only competition is myself. But I definitely agree that there is no replacement for eating well and resting.
I'm big, but Imma be swole... walk sideways through doors.... -Pain and Gain.So now I just want to be "big-ger"...
Ha no doubt.I'm big, but Imma be swole... walk sideways through doors.... -Pain and Gain.
I think you will enjoy your skinny wrists and ankles once you've got beefslabs for forearms and calves.
i don't know too many people who would claim that RX drugs are natty. just because you won't get popped on a test doesn't make it natural.Another point, is that (as far as I know) AI/hormone modulators like aromisin and erase pro are "natural". I use those. When they become "banned" do I then become a "dirty" lifter? It all seems silly.
I want to be bigger, stronger and more aesthetic, the juice is just another tool in our arsenal (like dieting or compound exercises IMO)
Exactly, there is no line. Except for a "social" line. What you do to excel at your sport unnaturally is limited by your training, diet, knowledge, talent, etc. Does anyone care what Lance Armstrong did to win? Especially after finding out they couldn't give his title to the 2nd, 3rd or 4th place winners? I don't. Think about how seldom he was even able to get away with aas, doping, epo, etc. 5-10% of the time at best? The other 90% he was busy training harder than everyone else.... naturally. Same goes here. 20-30% of the time "unnatural" typically. This is a sport nobody really cares about and suspects aas use anyways. Trust me, nobody cares. I doubt anyone will come to my NPC show outside of immediate family/gf. If you want "real" natty, anything other than food is not natural. So I'm natural right now. Now November-January is a different story.....i don't know too many people who would claim that RX drugs are natty. just because you won't get popped on a test doesn't make it natural.
i think this brings up a good point though. where is the line of "natural" drawn? if you use a pre with a sh!t ton of stims, is that natural? i've got a friend that has some power lifting records (best in texas) and he literally consumes no supplements except protein. he is all about being natty. but i probably would too if i could bench 400 lbs.
Some people just are strong! There's a family of 3 brothers and a dad where I live. The dad whom hasn't lifted in about a year, comes in and does 315 x 10+ one day and just leaves for another 4 months... like dang.i don't know too many people who would claim that RX drugs are natty. just because you won't get popped on a test doesn't make it natural.
i think this brings up a good point though. where is the line of "natural" drawn? if you use a pre with a sh!t ton of stims, is that natural? i've got a friend that has some power lifting records (best in texas) and he literally consumes no supplements except protein. he is all about being natty. but i probably would too if i could bench 400 lbs.
Yeah I think small diameter bones nake you look bigger.. as long as you dont have narrow shoulders and a big waste small bones play to any bodybuilders advantage. Think jay cutler versus phil heath. Jay is just wide from top to bottom while phil has big muacle bellies and little bones.I'm big, but Imma be swole... walk sideways through doors.... -Pain and Gain.
I think you will enjoy your skinny wrists and ankles once you've got beefslabs for forearms and calves.
Blew my ****ing mind the other day. Dude was probably 15 years old really scrawny looked about 135 and he's repping out 8 reps on the incline bench with 225 no spotSome people just are strong! There's a family of 3 brothers and a dad where I live. The dad whom hasn't lifted in about a year, comes in and does 315 x 10+ one day and just leaves for another 4 months... like dang.
I know I got a buddy of mine who weighs 155 and he reps 235 on bench no problem... Now that's not a lot compared to my other buddy who's about my size (225-230) and easily reps 375 (dude is a MONSTER) but just from those two I agree genetics is a big partBlew my ****ing mind the other day. Dude was probably 15 years old really scrawny looked about 135 and he's repping out 8 reps on the incline bench with 225 no spot
Playing college football... much funner when you are bigger faster stronger than most you play against...incidentally steroid use also led to a blown out knee, since my tendons couldn't keep up w the muscle growth, so that sucked
Yeah but short guys do half the work because the stroke is only 8 inches long.. I know some guys who are short and a little xhunky and can benchpress 260 and they dont work out but they have short arms compared to a lot of us so there's no glory in it.. id rather push it and do 400 at 5'11"Height has a tremendous amount to do with how much people lift, also.
I wish there was a mathematical formula to determine a height + weight comparison when performing a lift. I only bench 260 or so but if I were 6" shorter at the same weight I know I could put up 80+ more. Every inch makes a huge difference.
Yeah, but if you were six inches shorter AND the same weight you'd also be significantly more muscular.Height has a tremendous amount to do with how much people lift, also.
I wish there was a mathematical formula to determine a height + weight comparison when performing a lift. I only bench 260 or so but if I were 6" shorter at the same weight I know I could put up 80+ more. Every inch makes a huge difference.
YepYeah, but if you were six inches shorter AND the same weight you'd also be significantly more muscular.
More muscle = more weight moved.
So that doesn't really prove your point at all.
With what you said it's possible you could move the extra weight by (gasp) putting on more muscle.
I understand your logic and yes, more power will get you there. But, if you think about the physics of a lever you can't argue that an identical amount of force (i.e. same size muscle) used to move and object will be more efficient at a shorter length of the lever arm.Yeah, but if you were six inches shorter AND the same weight you'd also be significantly more muscular.
More muscle = more weight moved.
So that doesn't really prove your point at all.
With what you said it's possible you could move the extra weight by (gasp) putting on more muscle.
I'm not even talking about whether it's easier to lift a weight when you're shorter or not.I understand your logic and yes, more power will get you there. But, if you think about the physics of a lever you can't argue that an identical amount of force (i.e. same size muscle) used to move and object will be more efficient at a shorter length of the lever arm.
Hold a baseball bat at its base with a normal swinging grip. Then lift a tire up off the ground with it. Pretty hard to get leverage with a full length bat.
Now cut the bat in half (i.e. shorter arm segments) and lift the same tire up.
All I'm saying is that at the same exact muscular force, if you have shorter arms... you can lift more weight, period.
Ok well then if I had the exact same amount of muscle then I'd still lift more weight. The decrease in ROM alone would accomplish that.I'm not even talking about whether it's easier to lift a weight when you're shorter or not.
I'm talking specifically about your comment that if you were six inches shorter AND the same weight you'd lift more.
Which is obvious because you would have more muscle of you were 6 inches shorter and weighed the same, which would allow you to apply MORE force to the bar due to the sstronger muscular contraction.
My brother is 5'6" and 170-175 . He can bench press 300. Im 5" taller and hit 425 for 1RM. Im not bragging. Im making a point. Shourt guys may have less range of motion and a short untrained guy versus a tall untrained guy maybe the short guy wins. But maybe not. Its largely how you train and genetic advantage. Technically longer muscles have more room for contraction so if you train right you shoyld hit much bigger weights.. plus at 6'6" you shoulf be training as heavy as possible or you will miss all your potential.Ok well then if I had the exact same amount of muscle then I'd STILL lift more weight. The decrease in ROM alone would accomplish that.
Yes,
Totally agree man. I'm really tall but honestly a realist in saying I don't have the genetics for big unless I make it my life goal with plenty of gear. I'm happy comparing myself to myself though. I have to be or I'd kill myself hahaMy brother is 5'6" and 170-175 . He can bench press 300. Im 5" taller and hit 425 for 1RM. Im not bragging. Im making a point. Shourt guys may have less range of motion and a short untrained guy versus a tall untrained guy maybe the short guy wins. But maybe not. Its largely how you train and genetic advantage. Technically longer muscles have more room for contraction so if you train right you shoyld hit much bigger weights.. plus at 6'6" you shoulf be training as heavy as possible or you will miss all your potential.
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